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schnizel [OP](09/23/2015) [+] (9 replies)
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Little something for FJ:
Boko Haram is reinforcing ISIS position in Nort Africa by sending them man power.
> www.express.co.uk/news/world/600500/Islamic-State-Boko-Haram-fighters-ISIS-Libya-Rome-Europe
> www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/24/terror-triumvirate-isis-al-qaeda-boko-haram-training-together-in-mauritania/
> www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/paying-for-terrorism-where-does-boko-haram-gets-its-money-from-9503948.html
We also know the ISIS is currently smuggling in followers by disguising them as refugees, it appears Boko Haram is doing the same thing.
> www.ibtimes.com/number-nigerians-displaced-boko-haram-increases-21-million-international-organization-2083797
> www.iom.int/news/boko-haram-may-have-displaced-over-million-nigeria-iom
> www.wsj.com/articles/hundreds-of-thousands-of-nigerians-flee-boko-haram-seek-sanctuary-1407855499
> qz.com/500062/the-most-crucial-item-that-migrants-and-refugees-carry-is-a-smartphone/
> www.naij.com/394084-how-boko-haram-may-benefit-from-using-social-media.html
> www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-31522469
> www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11207681/How-terrorists-are-using-social-media.html
> www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11206398/Britains-spy-chief-says-US-tech-firms-aid-terrorism.html
> pastebin.com/V1vKdkeZ
Boko Haram is reinforcing ISIS position in Nort Africa by sending them man power.
> www.express.co.uk/news/world/600500/Islamic-State-Boko-Haram-fighters-ISIS-Libya-Rome-Europe
> www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/24/terror-triumvirate-isis-al-qaeda-boko-haram-training-together-in-mauritania/
> www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/paying-for-terrorism-where-does-boko-haram-gets-its-money-from-9503948.html
We also know the ISIS is currently smuggling in followers by disguising them as refugees, it appears Boko Haram is doing the same thing.
> www.ibtimes.com/number-nigerians-displaced-boko-haram-increases-21-million-international-organization-2083797
> www.iom.int/news/boko-haram-may-have-displaced-over-million-nigeria-iom
> www.wsj.com/articles/hundreds-of-thousands-of-nigerians-flee-boko-haram-seek-sanctuary-1407855499
> qz.com/500062/the-most-crucial-item-that-migrants-and-refugees-carry-is-a-smartphone/
> www.naij.com/394084-how-boko-haram-may-benefit-from-using-social-media.html
> www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-31522469
> www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11207681/How-terrorists-are-using-social-media.html
> www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11206398/Britains-spy-chief-says-US-tech-firms-aid-terrorism.html
> pastebin.com/V1vKdkeZ
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accountforstripey ONLINE (09/23/2015) [-] Wait... Media? Lying to us?
Like The Media?
No, nah, no that can't be right. They wouldn't. That's not what media does.
They're all about showing every single part of the truth.
Like The Media?
No, nah, no that can't be right. They wouldn't. That's not what media does.
They're all about showing every single part of the truth.
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pirateseatcarrots (09/24/2015) [-] Well from what I could determine from whatever dialect of Arabic he speaking it's along the lines "in not moving from here". As for what he's trying to achieve probably guilt them into taking in refugees or something.
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pirateseatcarrots (09/24/2015) [-] Bruh...they blew up their own country,let jihadists hijack their "revolution" and got refused entry into the same countries that supported aforementioned "revolution" I don't think anything makes sense anymore
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travishein (09/23/2015) [-] Hey guys...Amerifag here. With all that's going on over in your neck of the woods, how do you feel about American gun laws now? Serious question.
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erotictentacle ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-] Ey, i live in switzerland and every able bodies and willing male and females have guns at home, and everyone in the marksman clubs.
Granted, they cannot keep them completely assembled, they need a piece of it locked away in their house.
Granted, they cannot keep them completely assembled, they need a piece of it locked away in their house.
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erotictentacle ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-] Well, thats what i meant by able bodied and willing people. If you can and WANT to go though the mandatory military service, you have the right to keep your rifle, which most do and are encouraged to. Because a militia has no point without arms. And those who can't or don't want to do military service, usually do civil service if they are able. Like catastrophy support and that jazz.
and the military time didn't cut back, really. It just depends on what you learn now and if you do it all at once. Because you have the option of doing it in packs of 2 months or the like, the other option is to serve the entire time at oncce, which is a year or more i think, which accumulated is less time than doing it in several packs.
Eh, im digressing. Im not even gonna do military duty but i love talking about it~
So yeah..... end
and the military time didn't cut back, really. It just depends on what you learn now and if you do it all at once. Because you have the option of doing it in packs of 2 months or the like, the other option is to serve the entire time at oncce, which is a year or more i think, which accumulated is less time than doing it in several packs.
Eh, im digressing. Im not even gonna do military duty but i love talking about it~
So yeah..... end
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broderpetter ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-]
Considering getting a hunters licens and a rifle.
Ive always thought your laws is way to "liberal" but im starting to see how it could be usefull even here
Ive always thought your laws is way to "liberal" but im starting to see how it could be usefull even here
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koolmoedee (09/24/2015) [-] In one hand it would be peaceful to know that if something were to happen, you would have a gun to protect yourself. On the other, just the thought of some of these migrants getting ahold of guns themselves frightens me
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bakly (09/23/2015) [-]
It's all quite ****** up, we're forced to tolerate to accept foreigners from totally different culture, with different habits, behaviour, religion....And when you stand up, you're marked as racist, nacist, xenophobe - these names doesnt matter very much for me anymore, because some people or groups of people will call that way in moment when you say something against illegal immigrants.
But i will fully support Hungary and Slovakia, also there are few groups in our country who stand against this. so we're trying to do something
But i will fully support Hungary and Slovakia, also there are few groups in our country who stand against this. so we're trying to do something
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romuloid (09/24/2015) [-] What's even worse is the fact that many political parties with Nazi ideals are beginning to make a come back due to the fact that more people are becoming xenophobic. Hell, it's part of the reason why they were able to rise to power in the 20's and 30's. ***** not good yo
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anon (09/24/2015) [-]
the Nazi's were able to rise to power because they managed to pin the guilt for WW1 including its loss on the Jews saying that everyone gave their fair share except for the Jews who made it through the war fairly well due to their close nit communities. That being said, I think European culture is facing its social and economic demise if they let these immigrants flow through unchecked because many may well be terrorist cells hiding in the masses, the majority of them will simply be a drain on the countries well-fare system, and none of them will try to change to fit the society they joined, instead they'll just bring their own and demand the natives accommodate them.
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truesmokewolf (09/24/2015) [-] Stop waiting for the Lion to wake. He has grown old and senile. It is our time to take the lead. It is our turn to become the sword and the shield.
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anon (09/24/2015) [-]
No, how about **** you.
First of all, the other 'positive' side has been shown through the media, and this is another point of view. Believe it or not, no one actually cares what you've seen because not all relevant events happen around you. Shocking, I know. Here's something for you: It's not the legitimate refugees trying to actually escape violence and just get back to their country to rebuild that everyone is worried about, it's the violent and hostile refugees that come in droves with the rest of them that people are worried about. They aren't like a basket of apples where you can just pick out the rotten ones because there is no filtration going on here.
These people are segregating themselves from their surroundings despite being in a desperate situation. They don't care if they're imposing. Race is the discriminant factor here, therefore we judge based on race. Don't throw your ********* "you're racist if you treat different people differently" liberal argument around here. That last line is my own opinion, but since you don't mind throwing around your opinion, I think I will too.
And finally, no one ******* cares what you think of the people on this site. I don't know if you've just decided to skip over every good argument against these refugees that you've come across because it doesn't fit your narrative or what, but no one uses "lol **** the refugees" **** posts as a legitimate basis for the purpose of forming a sophisticated opinion. No, I'm not going to find them for you.
First of all, the other 'positive' side has been shown through the media, and this is another point of view. Believe it or not, no one actually cares what you've seen because not all relevant events happen around you. Shocking, I know. Here's something for you: It's not the legitimate refugees trying to actually escape violence and just get back to their country to rebuild that everyone is worried about, it's the violent and hostile refugees that come in droves with the rest of them that people are worried about. They aren't like a basket of apples where you can just pick out the rotten ones because there is no filtration going on here.
These people are segregating themselves from their surroundings despite being in a desperate situation. They don't care if they're imposing. Race is the discriminant factor here, therefore we judge based on race. Don't throw your ********* "you're racist if you treat different people differently" liberal argument around here. That last line is my own opinion, but since you don't mind throwing around your opinion, I think I will too.
And finally, no one ******* cares what you think of the people on this site. I don't know if you've just decided to skip over every good argument against these refugees that you've come across because it doesn't fit your narrative or what, but no one uses "lol **** the refugees" **** posts as a legitimate basis for the purpose of forming a sophisticated opinion. No, I'm not going to find them for you.
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godofcorndog ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-] "I witnessed this. Therefore you are all stupid." Sounds like you want it to be true to me.
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drekinn ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-] Me witnessing something was not my argument for it to be true elsewhere but simply where i was at that moment. and what you are trying to explain is a anecdotal fallacy, using a personal experience or isolated example as an argument. which OP does by providing evidence for an isolated example with no statistics to back it up but apply it to the rest.
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godofcorndog ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-] So by witnessing .01% of something, you can account for the other 99.99%?
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godofcorndog ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-] You are changing your words. You say "I was in Lebanon just two weeks ago and none of this was happening...Stop looking at this event through a tiny hole and open your eyes...you have become racists who think they can oversimplify everything" And now you are saying that "Me witnessing something wasn't my argument for it being true elsewhere."
You can't have it both ways m8.
You can't have it both ways m8.
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drekinn ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-] "refugees are ******* **** up everywhere." i point out i was at a place where they were not ******* **** up, it was not my evidence for them not ******* up **** elsewhere but only that they were not doing it right there. if you look at one fat american and assume all americans are fat you are using the same logic i'm criticizing. i never said all refugees are good, you ******* got that? because you keep assuming that's what i'm saying. i am not, just to repeat so you actually get the point NOT ALL REFUGEES ARE GOOD PEOPLE!. but if someone says "all refugees are bad people" i will point out that they are in fact not, but only some of them are, that's my whole damn point. i can 100% confirm you are trolling if you don't get that.
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godofcorndog ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-] You added your other comment before I was finished posting and couldn't see it. "Not all refugees are bad, not all are good." Fair enough, I can agree to that. It didn't seem like that was the point you were trying to make at first.
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drekinn ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-] My original comment was just to criticize the terrible logic behind OP's post, i have no hidden agenda to save the reputation of refugees, i kind of don't care, but when people bandwagon on the racist train without actually looking at the facts i feel like i should step in and point out a few things. showing a video of some refugees being assholes is not proof for squat, except that those refugees were assholes. i'm not trying to clear their name, i'm just defending the other 95%(not actual figure) that are fleeing a war torn country and trying to make a living while things settle.
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schnizel [OP](09/24/2015) [-] >No, that's exactly what you're doing, showing a fraction of total immigrants doing stupid **** and applying it to the rest.
Never did that, but I just implied that the events will only escalate and continue to happen.
>you committed the first fallacy and i'm criticizing that
What first fallacy?
> My whole argument is that you can't judge a whole from a few.
You can't judge the Goths for sacking Rome, but Alaric gave the Romans a brutal end.
Never did that, but I just implied that the events will only escalate and continue to happen.
>you committed the first fallacy and i'm criticizing that
What first fallacy?
> My whole argument is that you can't judge a whole from a few.
You can't judge the Goths for sacking Rome, but Alaric gave the Romans a brutal end.
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icedmantwo (09/24/2015) [-] Kind proves yourself wrong. Some are behaved so you can't just assume they are all behaved. Acknowledge that there are both good and bad, but the general media only wants you to see the good ones, while ignoring the damage they are doing. German police forces are doing literally nothing but investigating migrant related crime right now, but are trying to keep it hush hush because we don't want those dirty racists knowing that they are right about all this.
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drekinn ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-] I never said all immigrants were good, that's ********* , don't strawman me. i recognize that some immigrants are assholes, i mean i just watched a video showcasing some of them. but using that as some kind of logic against ALL immigrants is what i'm criticizing. i saw with my own eyes the horror and despair of people in need, i'm not gonna let some ******* who knows nothing of the situation make immigrants look like the bad guy. You guys sit in the comfort of your own home, dusting cheeto dust of your belly and you talk like you knwo anything about the situation, when in reality you are just as blind eyed to the truth as you make these media sheeple out to be. making immigrants out to all be good is ******** , i agree, but making them all look bad is even worse.
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icedmantwo (09/24/2015) [-] Except they are, by and large, bad. They go to Europe literally just for the money, and don't give a single **** about anyone but themselves, let alone the rule of law. They are just there to take and take without giving anything back. Watch live streams from refugee camps. Nothing but violence and hatred. See what the police in areas near the refugee camps are doing. Nothing but solving rape and battery cases from said camp. But wait, surely they are helping with the economy you may cry, but they can't even speak the language and just form ghettos in the land and buildings that were stolen from the natives so they could form their own ghettos.
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drekinn ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-] Can you supply evidence for any of these things? because i've been to a refugee camp in person and witnessed none of the violence and hate you mention. a family of syrian refugees live with my grandparents in iceland and the husband just got a job like a week and a half ago and it's going good i've heard. you have your perspective and i have mine, my point is that yours is not automatically correct, i base my views on evidence, so i would love if you could supply some, because i am open minded and if you show me good evidence i will reevaluate my stance.
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icedmantwo (09/24/2015) [-] Youtube videos:
youtu.be/PdjBV_GKmFY
m.youtube.com/watch?v=_nOoApMMz88
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m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2c2VGojpj4
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m.youtube.com/watch?v=xbTSdUdQeLY
m.youtube.com/watch?v=fX73ggsMNEI
m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_BQ-4WfK8A
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m.youtube.com/watch?v=XOpKBslt0vQ
m.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6G1MxMeX4
m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpZuEmKwNjM
m.youtube.com/watch?v=EhON-CB7liM
m.youtube.com/watch?v=t8NDImiea5U
m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEcwoXVtF7s
m.youtube.com/watch?v=BQhjB5hAzsc
m.youtube.com/watch?v=X9cid-8eW3g
m.youtube.com/watch?v=xn-UCR5p0y0
>We just want free money: www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmqbtyfQ3f8
Immigrant complains having no tv or air conditioning
m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_BQ-4WfK8A
Syrian boy drowned because father wanted new teeth.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=QZUuoaq1MLM
Immigrants rioting in Greece
m.youtube.com/watch?v=XOpKBslt0vQ
Refugees chanting and shouting "Allah Akbar" in Immigrant trains going to Germany
m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpZuEmKwNjM
Immigrants arriving in Hungary stop to throw rocks at train drivers.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=EhON-CB7liM
Hungarian immigrants leave huge amounts of trash. One gestures a slit throat movement to camera.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=t8NDImiea5U
Migrant forces his wife and child onto train tracks before hitting himself in the head with a rock repeatedly.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEcwoXVtF7s
Greece overwhelmed by rampaging immigrants.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=BQhjB5hAzsc
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m.youtube.com/watch?v=_nOoApMMz88
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m.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6G1MxMeX4
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m.youtube.com/watch?v=EhON-CB7liM
m.youtube.com/watch?v=t8NDImiea5U
m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEcwoXVtF7s
m.youtube.com/watch?v=BQhjB5hAzsc
m.youtube.com/watch?v=X9cid-8eW3g
m.youtube.com/watch?v=xn-UCR5p0y0
>We just want free money: www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmqbtyfQ3f8
Immigrant complains having no tv or air conditioning
m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_BQ-4WfK8A
Syrian boy drowned because father wanted new teeth.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=QZUuoaq1MLM
Immigrants rioting in Greece
m.youtube.com/watch?v=XOpKBslt0vQ
Refugees chanting and shouting "Allah Akbar" in Immigrant trains going to Germany
m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpZuEmKwNjM
Immigrants arriving in Hungary stop to throw rocks at train drivers.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=EhON-CB7liM
Hungarian immigrants leave huge amounts of trash. One gestures a slit throat movement to camera.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=t8NDImiea5U
Migrant forces his wife and child onto train tracks before hitting himself in the head with a rock repeatedly.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEcwoXVtF7s
Greece overwhelmed by rampaging immigrants.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=BQhjB5hAzsc
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zeunfunnyguy (09/24/2015) [-] yeah why don't they show them in a bad way? Why don't we fuel the fire that is racism in today's society.
i get that a lot of immigrants have ****** **** up and literally made life-threatening decisions to others.
But if people keep bringing up negative things over positive, racism is going to do nothing but rise, and that'd be ******
i get that a lot of immigrants have ****** **** up and literally made life-threatening decisions to others.
But if people keep bringing up negative things over positive, racism is going to do nothing but rise, and that'd be ******
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ekusas ONLINE (09/24/2015) [-]
Are you even remotely trying? I refuse to believe, that what youre saying, are the words of anyone sane. If something is correct, even if its racism, why the **** cover it up? If they are ******* right in what they say, why the hell would that be a bad thing? Truth is absoulute, doesnt matter if you agree or disagree with it.
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icedmantwo (09/24/2015) [-] >Better not show those racists that they are correct
>That would be racist
>That would be racist
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buttcacti (09/24/2015) [-] You all should have sided with the Jews and let them nuke the mudlims before they spread, we warned you.
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schnizel [OP](09/24/2015) [-] Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies [sic] that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive ”
—Barbara Lerner Spectre, IBA-News, 2010.
For example.
—Barbara Lerner Spectre, IBA-News, 2010.
For example.
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iexs (09/24/2015) [-] I feel sorry for a lot of these people, but ******** like the ones in this video should be dead in a ditch
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fukitidk (09/24/2015) [-] ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntLsElbW9Xo
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntLsElbW9Xo
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rubixium (09/24/2015) [-] Why did Europe even let them in to begin with? Its not their problem. All its going to do is harm them. Its an obvious risk. Refugees shouldnt be given a free pass. They are just like everyone else in the world. They should have to contribute to get a damn thing anywhere. The whole concept of letting mass amount of people into your country, that you already know are out to get you, and then giving them all of this positive coverage and resources is just stupid. Europe needs to get off its ass and grow some balls. Thank god this isnt happening in the US.
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anon (09/24/2015) [-]
I just don't understand, they come into the other countries trying to escape a war and then they just go and terrorize peaceful societies, steal from people who are trying to help them, and attack people because they don't agree with the customs of the land they are basicly invading, What, The, Actual, **** .
This is the kinda **** that makes me be ashamed to even be the same species as these pricks
This is the kinda **** that makes me be ashamed to even be the same species as these pricks
