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In a mother’s womb were two babies. One asked the other:
“Do you believe in life after delivery?” The other replied, “Why, of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.”
“Nonsense” said the first. “There is no life after delivery. What kind of life would that be?”
The second said, “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths. Maybe we will have other senses that we can’t understand now.”
The first replied, “That is absurd. Walking is impossible. And eating with our mouths? Ridiculous! The umbilical cord supplies nutrition and everything we need. But the umbilical cord is so short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”
The second insisted, “Well I think there is something and maybe it’s different than it is here. Maybe we won’t need this physical cord anymore.”
The first replied, “Nonsense. And moreover if there is life, then why has no one has ever come back from there? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. It takes us nowhere.”
“Well, I don’t know,” said the second, “but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us.”
The first replied “Mother? You actually believe in Mother? That’s laughable. If Mother exists then where is She now?”
The second said, “She is all around us. We are surrounded by her. We are of Her. It is in Her that we live. Without Her this world would not and could not exist.”
Said the first: “Well I don’t see Her, so it is only logical that She doesn’t exist.”
To which the second replied, “Sometimes, when you’re in silence and you focus and you really listen, you can perceive Her presence, and you can hear Her loving voice, calling down from above.”

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#1 - anon (11/05/2015) [-]

So what you're saying is my penis could have use in the afterlife?

#2 - anon (11/05/2015) [-]

I am pretty sure I can prove that a baby still exists after birth. I am also pretty sure that there is no proof of the existence of a soul, though. So no, your metaphor doesn't work out.

#8 to #2 - anon (11/06/2015) [-]

Is y'all serious?

The entire ******* point is that from the babies' perspective there is "no way to know" just as there is "no way to know" whether there is a God or afterlife from our perspective. The story introduces a metaphor wherein the limited perspective and understanding of a prenatal human is the same as our current situation - a "pre-death human".

To directly counter your point - it is easy for us to see that the babies are real and it is not easy for them to see that we are real. It could be easy for an afterlife entity to see we are real and not easy for us to see that the afterlife entity is real.

Basically, you missed the entire point.

#10 to #8 - anon (11/06/2015) [-]

I wrote an answer in the last paragraph in comment 9

#3 to #2 - anon (11/05/2015) [-]

#4 to #3 - anon (11/05/2015) [-]

He asked for opinions on it. Look man, I'm not the guy to run around and shove everyone my opinion in the face, but he literally freaking asked for it.

I'm just saying the metaphor doesn't work for **** , does that make me a fedorawearing fat piece of acne or what is your problem.

#7 to #4 - anon (11/05/2015) [-]

It still works as if you go into their perspective they don't see the outside world till born same goes for death and life, now I'm not one who finds religion appealing but ask yourself why are things the way they are and keep going deeper till there isn't a explanation. For what science has shown it truly can't answer why things are existent, religion is the counter balance so to keep people from devolving into madness from the realision of that theres no answer for why we are. Religion is a united opinion that keeps us apart from animals and prevent our basic desires from killing anything.

#9 to #7 - anon (11/06/2015) [-]

Yes, science doesn't have an explanation for everything yet, but it has explanations for a hell of a lot of **** . In history, many things that couldn't be explained then were thought to be the doing of gods. Like, raising the sun. Today, nobody needs a sun god, because we all know how it works.

Gods are just things that take the place of real explanations, nothing more or less. Something like this is called "Platzhalter" in german, I don't know how to translate it. We just use god for something as long as we don't find out what's really going on. That's what Nietzsche meant with "God is dead, and we have killed him.", because humanity doesn't stop making progress and therefore, doesn't stop killing god by making him less and less useful.

And for this "devolving into madness" thing. I guess I'm pretty okay. Didn't kill persons the last few days, didn't do it for religion, just did it because I'm not an asshole. And I also think you would be able to tell me apart from an animal. What keeps us apart is the ability of abstract thought and of asking questions. Because an animal doesn't have a concept of different personalities, it doesn't think that someone else knows something it doesn't. Small kids also can't do it, btw.

But whatever, back to the metaphor. I get your perspective point, but it still doesn't make sense to me. Babies don't exist in another physical form after birth, and they don't die during it. It's nothing like the concept of a soul. What would that stuff even consist of? You know, if babies could talk and think like that, sure they would be able to tell another baby in a womb about it. They just need to yell loud enough, no prob.

#11 to #9 - djmaryhikineet (11/07/2015) [-]

im the anon from #7 (at the time i was to lazy to log in) and id like to say i agree with you for the most part, what i was meaning was they are in Plato's Allegory of the Cave but just without the option to go back in. also should state that when i meant devolving into madness i meant that we wouldn't have morals if it there wasn't a thing to set said morals and that's what religion does, or in simpler terms memes wouldn't exist with out it.

#12 to #11 - anon (11/09/2015) [-]

To that morals thingy there's an interesting thought I took from Richard Dawkins. Morals are something evolutionary. Humans have been living in groups for a hell of a lot time because living in groups is better for surviving.

That's why humans evolved to be better at living in groups. Every human has a desire for communication and love, which can only be provided by groups, so they stay in groups. Humans also sense when others are in pain and try to comfort them (ever saw when a mother is crying and their small child is next to them? It's freaking adorable how those little ******** try to comfort the grown-up). And humans also sense when their behaviour is not accepted and try to blend in.

Please keep in mind that I'm talking about general behaviour here, not about extraordinary persons with autism or something.

Things like that lead to most of basic morals. Like not killing other persons, not hitting others for fun, not ******** on your grandmas head, you know, the basic stuff. Religion is not really needed in the process. Morals are pretty much something that comes out of not being a ****** human, and the law comes out of deeper thinking about what rules would be best for the group. Like, wearing a seatbelt doesn't really have to do something with morals, but since it's the law, the number of people who died in car accidents went down.

#6 - choseninsanity (11/05/2015) [-]

Hah! that brainwashing **** doesnt work on me OP!

#5 - anon (11/05/2015) [-]

The major difference being that babies keep growing until they get out of the womb. not to mention the fact that there is a literal cord feeding them nutrients from their mother, and they don't die then exit the womb they move out of it, and they keep growing until they move out of the womb.