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Cultural Comp: Geisha

 
Cultural Comp: Geisha. Hey guys. I know you don’t know me but I think that’s okay. In response to seeing the recent comps displaying examples of people of diffe

Hey guys. I know you don’t know me but I think that’s okay. In response to seeing the recent comps displaying examples of people of different cultures I’ve recently decided I would like to start a series of informational comps about people who keep traditions alive within their communities. This includes people who take preserving the cultural aspects of the area around them as a career. What I would like to do is put out one comp per month as I would like to give myself time to research the cultural people in depth enough so I’m not just talking out of my ass. If I ever happen to get something wrong, please feel free to correct me and I’ll correct myself where appropriate. I also highly encourage you to leave me suggestions of cultural preservationists you would like to hear about.


Cultural Comp: Geisha. Hey guys. I know you don’t know me but I think that’s okay. In response to seeing the recent comps displaying examples of people of diffe

The debut of one of the most famous Geisha of her time, Mineko Iwasaki (Roughly 50 years ago)



To start off I wanted to debut my series with a cultural profession I personally find very interesting, and that is the Geisha culture.
First a little history. The Geisha profession has been around for the past 400 years. Originally practiced exclusively by men as entertainers to patrons who waited for the courtesans’ arrival. (Which I may go into more detail in another comp) Women soon saw the opportunity and made the good prediction that patrons would get more entertainment from watching females preform rather than fellow males (As men were exclusive patrons of courtesans for obvious reasons) so women quickly took over.


Cultural Comp: Geisha. Hey guys. I know you don’t know me but I think that’s okay. In response to seeing the recent comps displaying examples of people of diffe

Geiko Kimika-san



Over time the professions of Geisha and courtesans slowly split apart as Geisha developed their own culture and while they did continue to entertain waiting patrons for the courtesans they acquired patrons of their own. Despite popular belief Geisha were in fact not prostitutes. Sex was not a part of their job description, though in the early days it is likely that some Geisha did cross the line and accepted payment for sex, however professionals who were found doing that were likely removed from the community.


Cultural Comp: Geisha. Hey guys. I know you don’t know me but I think that’s okay. In response to seeing the recent comps displaying examples of people of diffe

Maiko Ayano-san



One question that seems to strike many people is regarding “Mizuage” or the deflowering of a girl once she comes of age and while the thought of purchasing the “first time” of a young artist might be exciting for some, that’s not how it was done. For apprentices (Called Maiko in Kyoto and Hangyoku in Tokyo) the deflowering was a cultural affair much like a Barmitzva in the Jewish community and all girls were encouraged to take the leap that lead them to adulthood and money was not part of it. Instead, an okiya (The house that provided for the apprentice and into her Geisha-hood) would choose someone who was trusted and was a regular patron of the apprentice as she went through her training, as they didn’t just want to throw them at a stranger based on the amount of money they had. At the end of the day, it was the apprentices choice as to whether or not she wanted to go through with the act or not (Though in the past she would likely not graduate to Geisha status or “adulthood” in the eyes of the profession or community.)


Cultural Comp: Geisha. Hey guys. I know you don’t know me but I think that’s okay. In response to seeing the recent comps displaying examples of people of diffe

Two young Maiko before WWII



From the past to today there have been a lot of changes. While primarily, apprentices could be adopted by the Okiya and start their training at a very young age, these days they have to wait until they graduate high school to start training to be a Maiko or Hangyoku at 15 at the earliest. Also, Mizuage has long been taken out of the culture. Notice I’m not using gender based pronouns, well that’s because there are no sex related confines when it comes to joining the profession. In fact there is a male Geisha practicing today named Geisha Eitaro-san. While he wears the female regalia of his fellow Geisha sisters while preforming, outside of the teahouses and theaters, he looks like any other Japanese man and while some would think this would be a disadvantage, he’s very popular and actually is the owner of his own Okiya! Geisha and courtesans have also long ago split ways, eventually courtesans like Oiran eventually went extinct leaving only the Geisha (Though there is a close cultural cousin called the Tayuu that I may make an informational comp on).


Cultural Comp: Geisha. Hey guys. I know you don’t know me but I think that’s okay. In response to seeing the recent comps displaying examples of people of diffe

Male Geisha Eitaro-san on the left



The path from Apprentice to Geisha takes roughly 5 years, starting from Shikomi (A maid of sorts while they start taking their classes until they take a test that they MUST pass) to their debut as Maiko (Or Hangyoku if they’re from the Tokyo area), through the ranks, and finally becoming Geisha (Geiko in Kyoto). Keep in mind, Geisha and Maiko are not nuns. They’re not celibate. They can have sex, they just can’t charge for it, they have to do it on their off time, and considering how difficult and jam packed their days are, they usually find it hard to find relationships that get to the point of sexual, they just can’t charge for the act and it cannot happen while they’re working.


Cultural Comp: Geisha. Hey guys. I know you don’t know me but I think that’s okay. In response to seeing the recent comps displaying examples of people of diffe

Maiko Satsuki-san during her first year of training. She is currently the most successful Maiko in Gion Kobu



Some may ask “With all this fuss what is it that Geisha do?” Well, the name says it all. Geisha roughly translates to “Arts Person” they’re artists. Skilled in the traditional Japanese arts of dance, singing, playing a plethora of instruments, tea ceremony, and general entertainment. They entertain their guests with these arts and traditional games, like Konpira fune fune.



Former Maiko Fukusato-san playing Konpira fune fune



The Geisha culture is in danger with modernization but with the opening up of this secretive world, including some okiya and hanamachi accepting foreigners and one time guests rather than regulars, they’re numbers are in a slight upcurve since the past few years, while the numbers used to be around 80,000 in the past, the number of those practicing today is roughly only 1000 resulting in those who practice and who are successful being likened to celebrities complete with fan clubs and people watching their careers all over the world.


Cultural Comp: Geisha. Hey guys. I know you don’t know me but I think that’s okay. In response to seeing the recent comps displaying examples of people of diffe

Maiko Tomitae-san and Maiko Mameroku-san at the famous World Club in Kyoto. It's become quite trendy to invite Maiko to clubs



I hope you enjoyed this. Any questions you have will be answered as thoroughly as I can and will be stickied for other people's interest. Please leave a cultural preservationist career you know of and I will take them in consideration for other comps.


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Cultural Comp: Geisha. Hey guys. I know you don’t know me but I think that’s okay. In response to seeing the recent comps displaying examples of people of diffe

Retired Geiko Mamehana-san to finish the comp off!

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#1 - xskullgirlsx (02/03/2015) [+] (1 reply)
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Oh I see, if Japanese women paint their faces white, it's cultural and cute
But if I paint my face black, I'm racist and rude

What a double standard
#3 - dudesname (02/04/2015) [-]
very nice work, op. i was always curious about this subject. i wish you the best of luck and i hope i'll see your next comp soon
very nice work, op. i was always curious about this subject. i wish you the best of luck and i hope i'll see your next comp soon
#7 to #3 - curbed [OP](02/04/2015) [-]
I'm glad you liked it! If there's any questions you have on the subject please don't be afraid to ask. And I may post one in a few days since I haven't gotten any requests for other cultures yet.
#14 to #7 - dudesname (02/04/2015) [-]
i got everything i need, basically. i always wondered what they actually do, but i guess it was just a shower thought, which i never follow up on. It's nice to see there are still people out there preserving those old customs.
#15 to #14 - curbed [OP](02/04/2015) [-]
Oh well then! I'm really happy I was able to help in that respect ^^ And yes, there is a surprisingly large amount of people who make it their life work to preserve the culture of where they live, regardless of whether they were born into that culture or not. It's very encouraging to me ^^
User avatar #4 - otakuweaboo (02/04/2015) [-]
nice, i like this comp
#5 to #4 - curbed [OP](02/04/2015) [-]
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
User avatar #18 - notguitaraddict (02/04/2015) [-]
******* WEEBS
#19 to #18 - curbed [OP](02/04/2015) [-]
How?
User avatar #20 to #19 - notguitaraddict (02/04/2015) [-]
I was kidding
#21 to #20 - curbed [OP](02/04/2015) [-]
Oh. Okay. My mistake. Sarcasm is hard to detect online <.<  Have a high flying goat .
Oh. Okay. My mistake. Sarcasm is hard to detect online <.< Have a high flying goat .
User avatar #22 to #21 - notguitaraddict (02/04/2015) [-]
******* goats man
they're the best animal
#23 to #22 - curbed [OP](02/04/2015) [-]
Followed closely by potoos imho.
User avatar #24 to #23 - notguitaraddict (02/04/2015) [-]
those are pretty great too
#16 - anon (02/04/2015) [-]
I bet that all of you know more about other cultures than your own.

More white culture & ppl plz.
#17 to #16 - curbed [OP](02/04/2015) [-]
By white, what nationality are you referring to? And which cultural job/preservationist would you like to see? I would love to learn about people trying to preserve aspects of different European/white culture and would love to point those people who are trying to do that out. Thanks anon!
#26 to #17 - anon (02/05/2015) [-]
Any white nationality. There aren't much knowledge about us before the roman empire fell and we moved into europe, but that leaves you with 1600 years of history. Personally I'd like to know more about the germanic people.
#27 to #26 - curbed [OP](02/05/2015) [-]
Well I'm sure as you can see with such extensive history it's hard to narrow such information down, that's why I'm asking people to provide requests and I need an actual profession or subculture that is keeping the traditions alive. As you notice, I only did this comp on Geisha and their apprentices, not on the entire Japanese history. So if there is a Germanic subculture or profession that aim to keep traditions alive, please let me know and I'll research it ^^ It's hard to research something that is so extensive when I don't know what it's called. I'm sure you understand. Give me a cultural profession or traditional subculture and I'll make a comp of it as soon as I can ^^
#6 - enemyoftrn (02/04/2015) [-]
Perfect picture for a novel with this plot;
Two time displaced Geisha.
#8 to #6 - curbed [OP](02/04/2015) [-]
Lol but they still exist (And these are Maiko) ^^ Maybe a plot of them being displaced in a different country when those countries never made contact. Could you imagine? Geisha in Victorian England?
User avatar #9 to #8 - enemyoftrn (02/04/2015) [-]
I ve seen a Victorian London base anime, Emma, and I can say they already met Japan at the time, because there is an Indian prince as a character. What i mean is, Vic London is new york of its time.

Maybe not VC london, maybe 60s london? All those new culture londoners experience, wonder what the 2 geishas would do?
#12 to #9 - curbed [OP](02/04/2015) [-]
Being placed there? Hmm.... They could potentially be placed there through an engagement like an event? For example weddings? Funny enough, around that time there was a European Geisha practicing in Tokyo. I don't know what her professional name was, but her real name is Liza Dalby. This is her in her full Geisha regalia.
Last I checked there are also a couple Geiko practicing in Kyoto who are European, but they're not full fledged Geiko, instead they concentrate mostly on the musical aspect and singing ^^ Maybe this will help your plot with your novel idea ^^
#10 to #6 - curbed [OP](02/04/2015) [-]
Maiko Tomitae and Mameroku are actually two of my favorite and I loe this picture because they're from different hanamachi. Also Tomitae understands English. Her Okaa-san and her Maiko sister Tomitsuyu both are fluent in English so she's learning the language from them. She doesn't know how to speak it very well but she can understand it when it's spoken ^^
#13 to #11 - curbed [OP](02/04/2015) [-]
Is this from that anime you were talking about?
User avatar #25 to #13 - enemyoftrn (02/04/2015) [-]
Hehe, no. Just some fanart from RWBY.
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