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dbqpdb (01/10/2016) [-] People like to feel important for standing up for a cause and the media has found the perfect way to capitalize on it by bombarding people with things to make new movements and hashtags about so they'll follow stories and updates on the issue just long enough to make it to the next big thing that breaks.
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kinginthenorth (13 hours ago) [-] With all the rain these days, this sweater will just absorb it and become better.
Hella nice.
Hella nice.
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kinginthenorth (13 hours ago) [-] And it only cost him his first born!
I'll come collect it eventually. I like my meal with a bit of fight.
I'll come collect it eventually. I like my meal with a bit of fight.
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miasaki (13 hours ago) [-]
Its a new cryptocurrency!
All jokes aside, Media ramps up a news story that most likely does not require nation or world wide attention (whether it be good or bad) > People learn from or turn to social media to discuss this matter more in depth or to get more info as it is a big part of many peoples lives > It becomes a trending topic > Media continues to ramp up the "importance" of the matter > Money rolls in due to attention and views on official sites and T.V. channels, people are constantly looking to big media outlets (Some small ones as well, but the larger ones can pay a fleet of people to stay on top of **** every minute of the day, so more content may be available. Quantity, not quality is the game here.) for the "latest" and most "important" news > Money continues to roll in and attention is kept strong for a week or so until it slowly dies down a bit before they can ramp up a new story that may or may not be the concern of many.
All in all, it's a really ****** cycle that only serves to scare people and make big media, money. Im not saying to stay away form world events and all that, but just the opposite. Take their constant spewing of matters, look them through, get what information is needed, and move on. Do not get caught up in matters that do not concern you or your nation directly and concentrate on matters that can be resolved. Cut dry and simple.
Note for clarification: In my listing above, I am talking about the matters that media focuses on to keep issues alive. Things like the Paris attacks, police brutality, planed parenthood, firearms, etc. are all issues and matters that affect many in their own ways, but the media uses them to add fodder to a fire for their own gain in the form of little piddle **** issues that they somehow link to the larger ones.
The Paris attacks were terrible, if you wanted to help them by sending money and aid, send money and aid, if all you can offer are prayers, pray your heart out. Most importantly, if you have a loved one over seas and you worry, get their ass outta there if you feel the need to do so, or make sure they are okay and be there for them. There is no reason to constantly talk about the matter and look into every detail of the attackers lives and spread fear among the populous. Adding a filter to a profile pic serves no one as there are not two sides of the matter. Any sane person would support Paris when they were vulnerable, letting the world know is nothing but a trend and the media eggs it on by telling you to state certain things on social media to show your support (hashtags, quotes, or the best of all, videos and articles form their sites, its free advertising and they love it.).
In the end, there's a large difference between showing your support and saying you support a matter. Media would prefer that you say you support a matter (Not saying that they don't want you to show your support, I don't think many of them are downright evil, its just that one is action and the other is vocal and reaches more people) so others follow and get the ball rolling.
All jokes aside, Media ramps up a news story that most likely does not require nation or world wide attention (whether it be good or bad) > People learn from or turn to social media to discuss this matter more in depth or to get more info as it is a big part of many peoples lives > It becomes a trending topic > Media continues to ramp up the "importance" of the matter > Money rolls in due to attention and views on official sites and T.V. channels, people are constantly looking to big media outlets (Some small ones as well, but the larger ones can pay a fleet of people to stay on top of **** every minute of the day, so more content may be available. Quantity, not quality is the game here.) for the "latest" and most "important" news > Money continues to roll in and attention is kept strong for a week or so until it slowly dies down a bit before they can ramp up a new story that may or may not be the concern of many.
All in all, it's a really ****** cycle that only serves to scare people and make big media, money. Im not saying to stay away form world events and all that, but just the opposite. Take their constant spewing of matters, look them through, get what information is needed, and move on. Do not get caught up in matters that do not concern you or your nation directly and concentrate on matters that can be resolved. Cut dry and simple.
Note for clarification: In my listing above, I am talking about the matters that media focuses on to keep issues alive. Things like the Paris attacks, police brutality, planed parenthood, firearms, etc. are all issues and matters that affect many in their own ways, but the media uses them to add fodder to a fire for their own gain in the form of little piddle **** issues that they somehow link to the larger ones.
The Paris attacks were terrible, if you wanted to help them by sending money and aid, send money and aid, if all you can offer are prayers, pray your heart out. Most importantly, if you have a loved one over seas and you worry, get their ass outta there if you feel the need to do so, or make sure they are okay and be there for them. There is no reason to constantly talk about the matter and look into every detail of the attackers lives and spread fear among the populous. Adding a filter to a profile pic serves no one as there are not two sides of the matter. Any sane person would support Paris when they were vulnerable, letting the world know is nothing but a trend and the media eggs it on by telling you to state certain things on social media to show your support (hashtags, quotes, or the best of all, videos and articles form their sites, its free advertising and they love it.).
In the end, there's a large difference between showing your support and saying you support a matter. Media would prefer that you say you support a matter (Not saying that they don't want you to show your support, I don't think many of them are downright evil, its just that one is action and the other is vocal and reaches more people) so others follow and get the ball rolling.
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mytwocents (15 hours ago) [-] politiciens lead a huge march against islamists.
the pictures in the news.
the pictures in the news.
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mytwocents (15 hours ago) [-] what actually happened.
in a closed side street, ,guarded by hundreds of cops, inaccessible by normal people, in save distance from the real demonstration.
our great leaders, our truth-loving media.
in a closed side street, ,guarded by hundreds of cops, inaccessible by normal people, in save distance from the real demonstration.
our great leaders, our truth-loving media.
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EventHorizon (15 hours ago) [-] Seeing as supporting victims of terrorism is an across-the-isle position, care to explain how this is the "left"? Or are you insinuating that the right would never bother to lift a finger in support in the first place?
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notwalkingwaffles (15 hours ago) [-] In this context, the support of which you speak is updating your facebook picture.
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notwalkingwaffles (14 hours ago) [-] I mean, we are talking about the original two comments, right?
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rockerforlife (13 hours ago) [-] it's for SUPPORT and it works, it's about sending a message, not eradicating the terrorists, jfc
look, it's Gerard Araud
the Ambassador of France to the United States
thanking us for our support
look, it's Gerard Araud
the Ambassador of France to the United States
thanking us for our support
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migueldecervantes ONLINE (13 hours ago) [-]
Our two countries have been through their greatest revolution together. We are indeed very thankful for your support.
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rockerforlife (12 hours ago) [-] If anything the new American government was less than willing to support the new French republic because the debt that we owed them was to the French king and not the republic.
Although Facebook might seem like a shallow medium on which to express our condolences and support, it does not make them any less real and we will continue to support our oldest ally for years to come.
Although Facebook might seem like a shallow medium on which to express our condolences and support, it does not make them any less real and we will continue to support our oldest ally for years to come.
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EventHorizon (11 hours ago) [-] Again, this is insinuating that the "right" is doing anything at all itself to offer support. You can't criticize the efforts of one group when yours are nonexistent; it's categorically hypocritical.
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notwalkingwaffles (11 hours ago) [-] See, now you made the fatal flaw that by not arguing for your standpoint, I must be belonging to the other extreme.
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EventHorizon (10 hours ago) [-] You made the fatal flaw of assuming "you" is directed at you, and not the hyperbolic "you" that's been used as the subject thus far.
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notwalkingwaffles (10 hours ago) [-] Nevermind that, I just had a stroke or something, replace the last sentence in my comment with "I can't find a single case where 'you' was not the literal "you" in your original comment."
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notwalkingwaffles (10 hours ago) [-] I see. My bad. You see, I can't find a single case in the other comments where you was not in the literal "you" in your original comment.
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enlightednatzie ONLINE (13 hours ago) [-] Because lefties are nothing else than sheeple that believe everything the mass media shoves down their deep throats.
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mayoroftownsville ONLINE (19 hours ago) [-]
Wow, people pay attention to current events which are gradually replaced over time as new ones occur? Whodathunk
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anon (16 hours ago) [-]
First guy is right though. Except the ******** about hugging and being more generous. Violence cannot be stopped with more violence. We have to do things the old Western way let them in and let them fall. Let them fall hard. Let them feel the weight of their own beliefs. Offer them freedom and nothing more. If they decide not to integrate, shun them. Cut them off. Let them bleed themselves dry. When they finally pick themselves back up they will be better, smarter, stronger, and able to integrate.
Right now they're barbaric. They haven't gone through what the West did in the reformation period. They haven't sacrificed millions of their own for the cause of freedom. That's the one solution and the one thing that the West can't do for them.
We defend ourselves and give aid to only those who have proven themselves and deserve respect. Perhaps we can even learn something from them. But as it stands they are a violent, fanatic people. We cannot allow them to offend our freedoms, but just as well we cannot be consumed by hate.
Right now they're barbaric. They haven't gone through what the West did in the reformation period. They haven't sacrificed millions of their own for the cause of freedom. That's the one solution and the one thing that the West can't do for them.
We defend ourselves and give aid to only those who have proven themselves and deserve respect. Perhaps we can even learn something from them. But as it stands they are a violent, fanatic people. We cannot allow them to offend our freedoms, but just as well we cannot be consumed by hate.
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anon (15 hours ago) [-]
The problem with that concept of integration isn't "let us all integrate" it's "you integrate into us".
In this situation, yeah - **** those guys causing problems over there. But is it really integration when you expect newcomers to throw away everything and be just like you? That seems more like absorption. "Welcome! Now act like white people or die like a dog." about sums up most of Western history. I'm not even being racist or anti-white or wtfever you ingrates will blast me with for that, it's just historical facts what with British Empire expansion and colonization, and what was done to the Native Americans and **** like that.
I think cultural enrichment is a good thing. But I think any extremist needs to die. Got guys trying to **** up the country and hurt its people? Kill them. But hating all of them just means the REAL refugees who desperately need your help are probably gonna end up dead at your fence. It's real easy for us to get hoity-toity 'keep those savages out' about it, but we never consider it could damn well happen to us, too.
In this situation, yeah - **** those guys causing problems over there. But is it really integration when you expect newcomers to throw away everything and be just like you? That seems more like absorption. "Welcome! Now act like white people or die like a dog." about sums up most of Western history. I'm not even being racist or anti-white or wtfever you ingrates will blast me with for that, it's just historical facts what with British Empire expansion and colonization, and what was done to the Native Americans and **** like that.
I think cultural enrichment is a good thing. But I think any extremist needs to die. Got guys trying to **** up the country and hurt its people? Kill them. But hating all of them just means the REAL refugees who desperately need your help are probably gonna end up dead at your fence. It's real easy for us to get hoity-toity 'keep those savages out' about it, but we never consider it could damn well happen to us, too.
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anon (15 hours ago) [-]
Cultural enrichment only works when the values are not antithetical. And in this case, they are. Sharia is the exact opposite of due process, freedom of speech, separation of Church and State, and other values that Western Europeans fought, bled, and died to not only develop, but protect. There is no "integration." In this case it is the road to war.
There are deep philosophical values that Westerners hold that Muslim countries as well as Muslim people (in general) from those countries do not hold. For example, the capacity to empathize and accept other people. Look at the immigration policy of Islamic countries and take a closer look at Israel as well. And the refugees have been taking advantage of this. They are pushing, testing the waters, seeing how the West will react to their aggression. And so far they're not impressed, and the extremists will push this until the EU is ISIL if they can, while other Muslims will sit idle or even cheer them on.
Do you know what Europeans saw when they got to the Americas? Cannibals who would kill and eat other Native American tribes. People who had hardly any concept of property. People who went to war over which God was the rain god (something reminiscent of their own brutal history). They also saw peaceful tribes who would participate in trading, and who they were more than happy to accept to certain degrees. Sadly it wasn't perfect but Western culture at that time, while still brutal, was no more brutal than native tribes in Africa or the Americas, but so much stronger and so much more reasonable. If you think the Spanish were brutal to the Aztecs, look how brutal the Aztecs were to the Aztecs. After seeing what the Aztecs did to their own people, the Spanish were probably so desensitized to the brutality that they couldn't even see the Aztecs as people anymore. Same goes to Africa.
There are deep philosophical values that Westerners hold that Muslim countries as well as Muslim people (in general) from those countries do not hold. For example, the capacity to empathize and accept other people. Look at the immigration policy of Islamic countries and take a closer look at Israel as well. And the refugees have been taking advantage of this. They are pushing, testing the waters, seeing how the West will react to their aggression. And so far they're not impressed, and the extremists will push this until the EU is ISIL if they can, while other Muslims will sit idle or even cheer them on.
Do you know what Europeans saw when they got to the Americas? Cannibals who would kill and eat other Native American tribes. People who had hardly any concept of property. People who went to war over which God was the rain god (something reminiscent of their own brutal history). They also saw peaceful tribes who would participate in trading, and who they were more than happy to accept to certain degrees. Sadly it wasn't perfect but Western culture at that time, while still brutal, was no more brutal than native tribes in Africa or the Americas, but so much stronger and so much more reasonable. If you think the Spanish were brutal to the Aztecs, look how brutal the Aztecs were to the Aztecs. After seeing what the Aztecs did to their own people, the Spanish were probably so desensitized to the brutality that they couldn't even see the Aztecs as people anymore. Same goes to Africa.
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emptysuperman (01/11/2016) [-] I have no idea what this is about but I'll just make this point:
Am I supposed to ******* die for literally everything I believe in? Like, I either have to keep my opinion to myself or put my life in danger? Get off your high horse, faggots.
Am I supposed to ******* die for literally everything I believe in? Like, I either have to keep my opinion to myself or put my life in danger? Get off your high horse, faggots.
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youregaylol (16 hours ago) [-] Apparently standing behind your beliefs fully despite any and all consequences is a foreign concept in this world.
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redplasticcup (22 hours ago) [-] I think it's more to do with the fact that a year ago tons of people were "trying" to stand up to Islam extremists with the whole "je suis charlie" thing, but now it's forgotten when even worse things have happened and the left will brand anyone a racist and islamiphobe if you are against mass immigration and taking in thousands of refugees which will only lead to these events happening again.
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redplasticcup (5 hours ago) [-] I was just explaining the picture i'm centre left but where I live if you even suggest that there is too much immigration and taking this much refugees in might not be a good thing you are instantly branded a racist.
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youregaylol (14 hours ago) [-] "when the right's screaming 'Shoot all the brown people'"
Post evidence that this is a mainstream right wing opinion. Do it. Do it right now.
Because last time I checked "Let everyone in." is basically the mainstream lefts opinion.
Post evidence that this is a mainstream right wing opinion. Do it. Do it right now.
Because last time I checked "Let everyone in." is basically the mainstream lefts opinion.
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spermanentthreat (14 hours ago) [-] nah not even remotely close. It's on the other side of the country.
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anon (18 hours ago) [-]
I still have a thing I drew after the Hebdo attacks on my wall and I also have a French Flag on my wall for the Paris attacks.
I've always liked France so when they happened they did hit me hard. I do it for myself and I don't slap anywhere across the internet so everyone know that I am a better person or anything like that.
I will never forget them.
I've always liked France so when they happened they did hit me hard. I do it for myself and I don't slap anywhere across the internet so everyone know that I am a better person or anything like that.
I will never forget them.
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iwillrulenorway (15 hours ago) [-] serbia kind of did commit some minor major war crimes in the 90ies though
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iwillrulenorway (14 hours ago) [-] also serbia may be eastern european, but you are considered ''westerners'' by pretty much everyone in the world.
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iwillrulenorway (15 hours ago) [-] what no. the muslims committed a huge amount of war crimes themselves.
the whole war was terrible, that's all I was trying to say.
but yes the serbians did commit war crimes.
the whole war was terrible, that's all I was trying to say.
but yes the serbians did commit war crimes.
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vorarephilia 
(13 hours ago) [-] nobody cares about that dead syrian boy that washed up on the beach either.
It's almost like changing facebook avatars is completely inconsequential.
(13 hours ago) [-] It's almost like changing facebook avatars is completely inconsequential.
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vorarephilia (12 hours ago) [-] If my choices were getting shot by rebels, getting hanged by the Syrian government, or getting beheaded by religious maniacs, I'd choose Move to Germany as well.
The USA hasn't done near enough for me personally that I can't get in basically any other first world nation for me to die over. If i'm backed into a corner then yeah I'll fight for freedom, but when there are other places that would be better and aren't having a ******* free for all with ANFO, then why stay?
I'd rather be alive and a coward, than dead.
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The USA hasn't done near enough for me personally that I can't get in basically any other first world nation for me to die over. If i'm backed into a corner then yeah I'll fight for freedom, but when there are other places that would be better and aren't having a ******* free for all with ANFO, then why stay?
I'd rather be alive and a coward, than dead.
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vorarephilia (11 hours ago) [-] You wouldn't call an Irishman glutinous for moving to America during the potato famine, so why is it cowardly to leave for a place that is less shooty?
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mytwocents (9 hours ago) [-] 1. that boy was not washed on the sand beach as the medias photos implyed. he was found at a further away rocky area and placed on the beach cause it was more photogenic.
2. the boy was the kid of a people smuggler who had one of the few swim vests instead of his own kid and the other people that died, and survived.
3. the father already lived for over a year in turkey and worked there. they were NO REFUGEES. the father wanted to go to europe as a fake refugee for free medical treatment and better life without working.
4. after the incident the father peacefully returned to the exact same syrian town from which he "fled" and continues to live there without getting killed or threatened
another fine example on how media manipultes the people.
2. the boy was the kid of a people smuggler who had one of the few swim vests instead of his own kid and the other people that died, and survived.
3. the father already lived for over a year in turkey and worked there. they were NO REFUGEES. the father wanted to go to europe as a fake refugee for free medical treatment and better life without working.
4. after the incident the father peacefully returned to the exact same syrian town from which he "fled" and continues to live there without getting killed or threatened
another fine example on how media manipultes the people.
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vorarephilia (9 hours ago) [-] Oh. well the point still stands.
I was mostly pointing out that changing avatars on facebook helped no one.
I was mostly pointing out that changing avatars on facebook helped no one.
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trollmobile ONLINE (16 hours ago) [-] ye... a tabloid trash sensationalist journalist on the level of kotaku lost a blue square on his twitter.
this is totally comparable to the murder of multiple journalists practicing their freedom of speech by critisizing a controversial and militant group.
this is totally comparable to the murder of multiple journalists practicing their freedom of speech by critisizing a controversial and militant group.
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trollmobile ONLINE (15 hours ago) [-] literally everything he writes is either half-truths or straight up lies.
man gets hit by bus: "BRITISH MAN BRUTALLY RAN OVER BY TURKISH PROFESSIONAL DRIVER!"
that kinda stuff.
man gets hit by bus: "BRITISH MAN BRUTALLY RAN OVER BY TURKISH PROFESSIONAL DRIVER!"
that kinda stuff.
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sanitarysan (15 hours ago) [-] i know, but i met him once and he is the most flamboyant homosexual i have ever seen. i really just follow him because he is sassy to everyone he sees.
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trollmobile ONLINE (15 hours ago) [-] i know little about his personal life, so i can't comment on him as a person, i just know his journalism sucks.
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sanitarysan (15 hours ago) [-] nah, all journalists are scumbags. at least he is sassy and against other journalists. it's the most i can hope for in a journalist.
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trollmobile ONLINE (15 hours ago) [-] got some journalists in my family
they're the least down-to-earth people in my family, but that doesn't take much.
they're the least down-to-earth people in my family, but that doesn't take much.
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sanitarysan (15 hours ago) [-] some jobs just require you to be an asshole to be successful. i would know i have attorneys in my family.
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trollmobile ONLINE (15 hours ago) [-] bus driver's third cousin went to same mosque as current ISIS member:
"DRIVER HAD FAMILY TIES TO ISIS!"
"DRIVER HAD FAMILY TIES TO ISIS!"
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severepwner (14 hours ago) [-] "Bandwagons are as powerful as they are feeble. A candle can burn as bright as the attention span of millions. But the human attention span, like a candle, goes out quite quickly."
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brandonsharklow ONLINE (14 hours ago) [-] they're talking about how there was such an uprising after charlie's death but now a year later no one cares.
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
Don't show you guys are afraid of them. If they hurt you, hurt them back. the eye for an eye rule is not perfect but eventually, peace would come out of it in the end.
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anon (14 hours ago) [-]
well wasnt ghandi's solution to problems "passive resistance"
like... sit around, do nothing, and hope the hostile powers leave you alone
thats kinda how europe turned to **** in the first place, indifference let the kebabs invade and settle in to cause these problems, and its only after **** hit the fan that people had to wake up and say no to the migrants
if were in for historical sayings, how about "the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing"
like... sit around, do nothing, and hope the hostile powers leave you alone
thats kinda how europe turned to **** in the first place, indifference let the kebabs invade and settle in to cause these problems, and its only after **** hit the fan that people had to wake up and say no to the migrants
if were in for historical sayings, how about "the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing"
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anon (13 hours ago) [-]
It is very cowardly. Would love to see how brave muslims are without their guns....
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mondominiman (14 hours ago) [-] I think it was the name of the dude that got killed for drawing Muhammad
