Concerning Paris
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#44
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mrwalkerfour (11/15/2015) [+] (4 replies)
stickied by ZeGerman
for those not into doctor who, the war the doctor is reffering to, is the time war, known by other names, THE war, the last war
combatants
-time lords, galifreyans (doctors species, a high intellgent inter galactic species which had discovered the way to time travel, hence their name.
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-the daleks (artificial beings made for the purpose of destroying all other intelligent life forms)
result
stalemate, inumerable losses on both sides (millions on the time lords, possibly billions of daleks) both sides trapped in time lock ( a sort of purgatory) daleks were not wiped out but were severely weakened, no longer a severe threat to the whole universe as they once were. time lords all but extinct, save the doctor as the last time lord
the war raged across planets, solar systems, galaxies and time itself. the war cost the lives of trillions, possibly more, entire solar systems were lost in this war, the daleks cleansed any planet they captured. they were extremely strong and almost unbeatable, constantly expanding and multiplying as they went, the doctor was a key player in the war,
it is likely he witnessed atrocities the likes of which we cant comprehend, entire planets lost, his own people turned from peaceful beings into corrupted bringers of war and brought to near extinction,
eventually in the dying days of the war the daleks mounted a last assault on the time-lords home planet of galifrey. the time lords were being overwhelmed and there powerful defences had broken. in desperation, the doctor himself enacted a time lock on the planet. this locked the daleks and the time lords out of the universe, in a sort of purgatory like state, he did this so that the daleks would be gone and the universe would be safe, at the cost of his own people.
the doctor wasnt on galifrey himself and so survived and remained in our universe, the last time lord. he was in fact a massive player in the war, and he is personally reponsible for countless deaths. mostly daleks, but like anyone he made mistakes and many innocent people died due to his bad decisions, although likely not a very occasional thing for him to do, but in this war, a single mistake meant a planet might be destroyed, even a solar system could be lost.
he lives with the horrors of that war, and so he seeks to maintain peace and to help people, hence his name, the doctor.
combatants
-time lords, galifreyans (doctors species, a high intellgent inter galactic species which had discovered the way to time travel, hence their name.
)
-the daleks (artificial beings made for the purpose of destroying all other intelligent life forms)
result
stalemate, inumerable losses on both sides (millions on the time lords, possibly billions of daleks) both sides trapped in time lock ( a sort of purgatory) daleks were not wiped out but were severely weakened, no longer a severe threat to the whole universe as they once were. time lords all but extinct, save the doctor as the last time lord
the war raged across planets, solar systems, galaxies and time itself. the war cost the lives of trillions, possibly more, entire solar systems were lost in this war, the daleks cleansed any planet they captured. they were extremely strong and almost unbeatable, constantly expanding and multiplying as they went, the doctor was a key player in the war,
it is likely he witnessed atrocities the likes of which we cant comprehend, entire planets lost, his own people turned from peaceful beings into corrupted bringers of war and brought to near extinction,
eventually in the dying days of the war the daleks mounted a last assault on the time-lords home planet of galifrey. the time lords were being overwhelmed and there powerful defences had broken. in desperation, the doctor himself enacted a time lock on the planet. this locked the daleks and the time lords out of the universe, in a sort of purgatory like state, he did this so that the daleks would be gone and the universe would be safe, at the cost of his own people.
the doctor wasnt on galifrey himself and so survived and remained in our universe, the last time lord. he was in fact a massive player in the war, and he is personally reponsible for countless deaths. mostly daleks, but like anyone he made mistakes and many innocent people died due to his bad decisions, although likely not a very occasional thing for him to do, but in this war, a single mistake meant a planet might be destroyed, even a solar system could be lost.
he lives with the horrors of that war, and so he seeks to maintain peace and to help people, hence his name, the doctor.
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voltkills (11/14/2015) [-] that speech was awesome, totally made up for the previous episode being so **** , and was by far the best thing capaldi has done as the doctor so far, really showed how good he can do the role.
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spineless (11/14/2015) [-]
People have been using my name a lot in regards to this event. I've been summoned more today than any other day. There's this one guy in particular who's been summoning me like I'm his goddam familiar or something.
Your comment is, by far, the tamest. So, kudos on the level head.
Your comment is, by far, the tamest. So, kudos on the level head.
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captainprincess (11/14/2015) [-] You chose that name
You have relatively little ground to complain honestly
You could have NOT named yourself after a word likely to be said frequently
You have relatively little ground to complain honestly
You could have NOT named yourself after a word likely to be said frequently
#47 to #26
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captainprincess (11/15/2015) [-] were they ever not a thing
idk I figured they were always a thing
idk I figured they were always a thing
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spineless (11/15/2015) [-]
I wasn't thinking when I chose this name. Still though, it's interesting to see where and in what context the word is used. It's mainly used on the politics board usually in regard to Bernie Sanders or America's reluctance to get involved in one conflict or another.
I will even get unintentionally summoned by the same user multiple times in a day. Imagine the type of person who has the word "spineless" in their daily lexicon. It's just interesting to me.
I will even get unintentionally summoned by the same user multiple times in a day. Imagine the type of person who has the word "spineless" in their daily lexicon. It's just interesting to me.
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captainprincess (11/15/2015) [-] yeah
But hey if you do I ain't gonna judge
It's just FJ
But hey if you do I ain't gonna judge
It's just FJ
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ireallylikepotatoe ONLINE (11/15/2015) [-] Well no, the audience aren't. The doctor is however because he doesn't approve of violence.
Learn the characters before you criticize the audience.
Learn the characters before you criticize the audience.
#4
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ScottP (11/14/2015) [-] Chills man.
On an unrelated note, this doctor looks like Doc Brown's younger brother
On an unrelated note, this doctor looks like Doc Brown's younger brother
#38
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lolibear (11/15/2015) [-]
I agree with this sentiment, but this doesn't apply to Paris. No ideology is worth going to war for, but defending those you care about from attacks ARE. I'm not promoting war with ISIS or Syria, and I definitely don't have the appropriate perspective as an American to accurately judge the right response to the refugee crisis. I can say that if this attack is followed by more attacks, then sitting back for the sake of peace is NOT an option.
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ZeGerman [OP](11/15/2015) [-] There will be war, trust me. It always comes down to war, simply because mankind isn't ready for just "stepping away" from violence on a global scale. And, sadly, a small excerpt of a TV show isn't going to change that.
I just try to be the best person I can. Humanity itself, I can't change who we are and how we deal with things.
I just try to be the best person I can. Humanity itself, I can't change who we are and how we deal with things.
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lolibear (11/15/2015) [-]
Did you read what I said beyond the first clause?
Also, if someone lunged at you with a knife, would you let them kill you? Would fighting back and defending yourself be inhuman? Self-defense IS a good justification for military action, and I would argue it's the only good justification.
Also, if someone lunged at you with a knife, would you let them kill you? Would fighting back and defending yourself be inhuman? Self-defense IS a good justification for military action, and I would argue it's the only good justification.
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ZeGerman [OP](11/15/2015) [-] Killing against other humans is never justified, be it war or single combat. As for me, if I was in acute danger, I'd try to either run as fast as I can, or if I can't do that, try to immobilize them. But I'd never EVER kill another human being. And this is what's going to happen now: Killing. These people won't be left off with a broken wrist, or covered in bruises. Not persecution or defence, killing.
#33
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theruse (11/15/2015) [-] There's no talking to psychopathic terrorists who are willing to blow themselves to bits just to kill a lot of people.
#37 to #33
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donbionicle (11/15/2015) [-] It's still a Doctor Who episode, there has to be some kind of resolution beyond "everyone dies anyway for no reason other than people are dicks". There are tragic episodes, of course, but nothing quite as real an actual terrorist attack.
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ZeGerman [OP](11/15/2015) [-] You know what scares me most? These are not psychopaths. They're people who believe in something, and go to extremes fighting for it. They have goals, they don't do this for the heck of it.
They're not the Joker. They're Bane.
Quoting Tom Hardy: "Some men just want to watch the world burn. Well, Bane's come to pull the pin on the grenade."
They're not the Joker. They're Bane.
Quoting Tom Hardy: "Some men just want to watch the world burn. Well, Bane's come to pull the pin on the grenade."
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DrFlanigan (11/15/2015) [-]
Alien shapeshifter race wants Earth.
Humans say no.
The Doctor makes everyone forget if they are human or alien.
They make a peace treaty. Neither side knows what side they are on. Everything is fair.
20,000,000 aliens allowed to live on Earth in the form of humans, to live out their lives in peace.
X years later, the ISIS of the aliens say "Why do we have to hide our true form?"
Start exposing and killing their own kind.
The boxes are supposed to be the thing that ends the peace. A "failsafe"
One box has 2 buttons, exposes all the aliens or kills all the aliens.
The other box has 2 buttons, blow up a nuke under them (I think) and one other function that I can't recall. (I may have the buttons for both boxes mixed up, anyway)
They all meet in this room. The hair tied up girl is the leader of alien ISIS. The twin is the doctors human companion. The blonde woman is the leader of a military organization that deals with alien things.
Watch the show. It's ******* amazing.
Humans say no.
The Doctor makes everyone forget if they are human or alien.
They make a peace treaty. Neither side knows what side they are on. Everything is fair.
20,000,000 aliens allowed to live on Earth in the form of humans, to live out their lives in peace.
X years later, the ISIS of the aliens say "Why do we have to hide our true form?"
Start exposing and killing their own kind.
The boxes are supposed to be the thing that ends the peace. A "failsafe"
One box has 2 buttons, exposes all the aliens or kills all the aliens.
The other box has 2 buttons, blow up a nuke under them (I think) and one other function that I can't recall. (I may have the buttons for both boxes mixed up, anyway)
They all meet in this room. The hair tied up girl is the leader of alien ISIS. The twin is the doctors human companion. The blonde woman is the leader of a military organization that deals with alien things.
Watch the show. It's ******* amazing.
#45
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exarzero (11/15/2015) [-] Sit down and talk to a member of ISIS and tell me how reasonable they are. You can reason with a decent human being, but not monsters.
#48 to #46
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exarzero (11/15/2015) [-] Excuse me for not being from Gallifrey, but I've lost four friends(via military), and an Aunt(North Tower, second to last floor) to these bastards, and believe me, people TRIED and are still trying to get peace to work, but it just does. not. work.
"Fanatics" keyword. Not soldiers, or nations, just nutjobs with bombs and guns. There is no leader to sign a treaty with, and there is no nation to speak of. Just Jihad. Anything else, and you are just wishfully thinking. It's Ignorant.
"Fanatics" keyword. Not soldiers, or nations, just nutjobs with bombs and guns. There is no leader to sign a treaty with, and there is no nation to speak of. Just Jihad. Anything else, and you are just wishfully thinking. It's Ignorant.
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ZeGerman [OP](11/15/2015) [-] It's equally ignorant to carpet bomb entire countries and have hundreds of innocent people killed, just because that's the most convenient way to go after a few "nutjobs with bombs and guns". Oh and btw, to me, every person with a bomb and gun wiling to kill another person is a nutjob. Don't talk to me about justified killing, please.
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exarzero (11/15/2015) [-] I'll bear that in mind when they start shooting your friends and family in your own Neighborhood, and you get a chance to stop it. Go ahead and sit on the side if that ever happens.
I lost too much, I don't give a damn about your ideas of "how it should work" when it's just not how it is. I'll use equal force against anyone who tried to harm me, my family, or my country.
The French know to do that. In reality, if given the right circumstances people like you would be tossed aside and destroyed, when in looked back on, you should of fought. Honorable storytale like ideals, but those won't mean anything when you are dead, and everything you love burns because you don't know how to defend it.
Even the Buddhist monks knew to fight when threatened. Night.
I lost too much, I don't give a damn about your ideas of "how it should work" when it's just not how it is. I'll use equal force against anyone who tried to harm me, my family, or my country.
The French know to do that. In reality, if given the right circumstances people like you would be tossed aside and destroyed, when in looked back on, you should of fought. Honorable storytale like ideals, but those won't mean anything when you are dead, and everything you love burns because you don't know how to defend it.
Even the Buddhist monks knew to fight when threatened. Night.
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ZeGerman [OP](11/15/2015) [-] I wouldn't be any good with a gun. I've been raised in a parental environment where violence against each other was never an option. I took my beatings in kindergarten, school etc. and I always stuck to people who understood that I wasn't a coward, I'm just not able to inflict physical pain onto others, let alone death. If life decides to "toss me aside", so be it, I'll be reborn. That's what I deeply believe in. My body's just a vessel for my soul. Your way of thinking is what "An Eye For An Eye" is all about, and I can't support that. I respect your opinion, but it's your opinion, not mine.
Night.
Night.
#42
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thesupervillian (11/15/2015) [-] That was honestly eh. Not to take away from the speech itself, that was nice and all, but it is the Doctor. He has been alive for a long as **** time, and the part where the chick that looks like Clara says "You'll never understand!" just kinda killed the mood for me. I immediately just couldn't feel a little mad by an ignorance about the guy who's race is dead from a great time war. Then again I haven't watched any of this newer season since the show seems to lose appeal in a certain way after watching a few different Doctors come and go. This specific Doctor can probably be noted in the future for this speech, but it's not like the other Doctors haven't done things that are on par with it.
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sumerfag (11/15/2015) [-] The chills? No, that can't describe it. I was full on shaking during this scene. 10/10, 12 is quickly becoming one of my favorite doctors.
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musicaglory (11/15/2015) [-] I watched this twice, posted it to facebook, and watched twice again.
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thepaperpanda (11/15/2015) [-] No, this is a very serious part of the episode. "Concerning Paris"
