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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#6 - Jesusnipples
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#34 to #6 - anon id: e1d5ad09
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Investment is a thing, you know.
#37 to #34 - shadowgandalf
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You can't invest with no money.
#38 to #37 - shadowgandalf
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Unless you are a selfish asshole, who wanna start a new financial crisis*
#43 to #38 - anon id: e1d5ad09
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Why are you lying, goyim? Just invest money you will be rich, no catch. What could possibly go wrong?
#44 to #43 - shadowgandalf
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Nazing i guess
User avatar #59 to #37 - pebar
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Sure you can. It's called a loan and people get them all the time to start up businesses.
#80 to #59 - shadowgandalf
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A loan is not giving money to other people...
When a bank give a loan you, they evaluate how much you are currently earning, so as to estimate how much they can loan you over how long a period of time.
If you don't have a job, you can't get a loan.
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In comes the business exception:
If i want to start a business, then i have to meet the individual banks requirements.
This can range from how iinfluential your family members are, to how you have planned your business, and the potential for the market of your business.

TL;DR You greatly overrestimate how hard it is to start a business.
User avatar #251 to #80 - angelious
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its actually possible to get a loan without a job...atleast we have several types of loans in my country aimed towards unemployed wishing to start their business or towards students who needs cash to further their education and so on
#272 to #251 - shadowgandalf
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indeed you can, but then a chain of the banks advisers need to approve your business plan as being viable and worth it.
User avatar #86 to #80 - pebar
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I didn't say it wasn't hard.
But it is an example of people investing money they don't have. It also works with people who already do own a business and wish to expand their inventories.
#125 to #86 - shadowgandalf
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Lemme be clear:

When you have a steady income, loaning is not investing money you don't have. They are giving you money based on your income.


User avatar #3 - damping
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Young Republicans club in a nutshell.
#131 to #3 - anon id: c530df88
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**anonymous rolled image** Young democrats club in a nutshell
User avatar #163 to #3 - douthit
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There were plenty of poor people in my college Republican group in college, and I was one. They were a little too big-government for me.
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#210 to #3 - wwiiexplain
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nancy pols- polo- palo- Iraq
#128 to #3 - theruse
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>Implying only Republicans do this.   
>Implying that all other political parties, i.e. Democrats are saints.   
>Implying no rich person, no matter what party they are affiliated with, has done this.   
>Implying   
>Implying   
>Implying you're r00d.
>Implying only Republicans do this.
>Implying that all other political parties, i.e. Democrats are saints.
>Implying no rich person, no matter what party they are affiliated with, has done this.
>Implying
>Implying
>Implying you're r00d.
#130 to #128 - touchmyfunny
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he wasn't implying any of this if you think about it
User avatar #275 to #130 - damping
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Exactly. Theruse must be butthurt.
#276 to #275 - theruse
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#143 to #128 - anon id: e42f040d
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Last time I checked, it was Democrats/Liberals/Whatever asinine label Americans have assigned lately who are always banging on about the poor.

And Republicans tend to be stereotyped as being horrendously out of touch with the reality of the poor, particularly wealthy Republicans. Which, I've got to say, they tend to be.
#15 - Aejax
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Because young democrats are so much better, right?

Virtually all young people with strong political beliefs, regardless of what they may actually be, tend to be pants-on-head retarded
#20 to #15 - captainganto
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^ blatantly a racist


or a flag burning communist.
#64 to #15 - anon id: b312223e
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Why do Americans always do this? Someone is pointing something out in the party they vote for, then make excuses that the other isn't better, it's really narrow minded.
#180 to #64 - anon id: 275486be
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Americans are brainwashed to the max, they have to bash on each other to give their Zionist masters a show!
User avatar #246 to #15 - greatgatsby
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I've gotten into the bad habit of punching people who say overly dumb political things...

It is really a problem that has gotten me kicked out of a lot of places
User avatar #196 to #15 - bighornwizardsheep
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Liberals: Kid ate his pop-tart in shape of a gun? Suspended.
Conservatives: School shooting? The gun is a more important topic than the people affected
User avatar #211 to #196 - thebaseballexpert
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those should be flipped around.. liberals are currently trying for more gun control
User avatar #25 to #15 - Gandalfthewhite
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Young people (under 25) who are all political n' **** annoy me at times, or most of the time, simply because they rarely actually know what they're talking about. Everyone i've come across just copy everything their parents say and take it as gospel. No one ever learns for themselves they just adopt their parent's political views
#155 to #25 - politetroll
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I'd say young people actually have a better grasp of politics than a lot of older people do actually. When I was in uni I met a lot of hardheaded political extremists, mostly liberals, and I would often argue with them. For the most part, because they're in a transitional stage where they haven't solidly cemented their beliefs, they're much more open to debate. Now that I'm out of uni and into the workforce, the conversations I have regarding politics are a lot less interesting. Maybe that's just the difference between being in a workforce and being in university, I don't know, but I think your hating on young people with beliefs is a bit elitist of you.

Thumb me down please.
User avatar #176 to #155 - Gandalfthewhite
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I'm not going to thumb you down, i'm a young guy myself (18) and am currently studying government and politics and it's because of that that i have sort of developed a slight irritation at people my age discussing politics. This is mostly because i've spoken to their parents who have said word for word the exact same thing's their kid's have said which leads me to believe that they have pretty much copied exactly what their parents say
#212 to #176 - politetroll
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Well, their parents are definitely the people they've spent the most time with, so it's natural there would be a lot of overlap in their beliefs. Also, I definitely understand the frustration of someone educated trying to discuss a subject that the other party is less educated on. I'm sure a graduate student studying physics who was trying to talk about quantum mechanics with a history major would find the person irritating, but the difference is in day to day life quantum mechanics doesn't need to be talked about. One of the most frustrating things for me in uni was when students of one discipline or another were getting irritated when someone from another discipline tried to discuss their studies with them. Most of the learning that happened when I was in uni wasn't in the classroom, and I like to think I'm a well rounded individual now because I interacted with not only engineering students, but history, psychology, poli-sci, all those other things. Getting irritated with people who don't know as much about something as you is fruitless, and as long as you're not a dick about it they're usually really open to legitimate arguments.
User avatar #286 to #212 - Gandalfthewhite
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see the thing is, one of the people who irritate me most is a friend of around 12-13 years who has studdied the same course of politics as me for around a year who to this day will not even except to the slightest any recognition of the other side in politics, she is firmly dogmatic in her belief's in what ever her mother says about any form of politics. To her it is either labour (Britain's watered down version of socialism) or you're a fascist scumbag who want's to exterminate gay's and minorities. it's that frustrating for me
#188 to #155 - supercookieduster
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ah, the college kno1 it all hippies
User avatar #41 to #25 - rainbowrush
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That annoys me as well, but believe me when I say there are a lot of people under 25 that knows their ****. I've learned most everything of politics in my own country, cause I find that **** hilarious. I know a small bit about american politics, as much as the average american anyhow. You're right that most people under 25 don't know what they're talking about, but neither do most people over 25. We've come to a point where people disregard what someone says just because of where they stand, or their age. I find this even worse. I've learnt a lot from people under 25 when it comes to american politics, you just have to listen.
User avatar #30 to #25 - vigilum
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I've met both extremes when it comes to younger people and politics.
Such as people who have no idea what the entire name of their preferred party is, and people capable of having proper debates about politics.
User avatar #9 - dancingdoggy
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My friend got a job through family connections.
It's part time, like 5-6 hours a day 2-3 days a week. $12 an hour.

She's 'stressing' about it getting more difficult. It's going to become 7 hours a day 3 days a week.

-.- Rant: REALLY? I work 20 hours a week, with 20 hours of class that expect me to study at least twice that, and I'm AWARE that's still less than a LOT of people have to do. You also get paid more than me, bitch, even after my promotion. /rant
User avatar #14 to #9 - wertgf
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I also do 20 hours a week, in 2 days.... -.- IT sucks.
#32 to #9 - burgerfart
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12.5 hours a week... 33 $ hour.. Go to school.. I aint bitchin. But ghad I hate and love my job at the same time.. -_- Pic related.. mah job
User avatar #51 to #9 - drunkexplain
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Got a job with my dad as a Laborer. Worked 71 hours last week and have work for the next 3 months. Family connections are ******* sweet dude.
User avatar #69 to #9 - gcloud
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when i first got my job i felt exactly like that but after 2 years i work 36 hours a week and im always begging for more

she'll change shes just ignorant
#73 to #9 - comehonorfacetwice
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My friend makes 11.70 an hour as Costco and only schedules himself as available on Sundays because they time and a half. So he makes roughly 17.50 an hour and works an 8 hour shift. He's quitting because he thinks he's worth more. He's in college, has below a 3.0 GPA and lives on daddy's money.

I'm a few months older and am grateful to be a college student making 8.50 an hour. **** this noise.
User avatar #93 to #9 - toshietosh
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7x3=21 hours a week.

21>20
User avatar #107 to #93 - dancingdoggy
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Yea I know, I was adding all my hours. 20+20+hw is more than 21.
#114 to #9 - domefige
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YEAH!! No one has the right to complain if there's someone out there that has it worse than them.
#136 to #9 - anon id: 429bf3eb
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I bust my ass at least 35 hours a week making only $9.09/hr.

Three weeks ago I was making $7.89 an hour, but I got promoted after a little over a year with the company. I'm still considered part time and am ineligible for benefits. I would love a better job, but retail is what I know. I do it well.

How many people do you know that can convince a woman to return an xbox 360 to the store across the street to buy ours for the same price, as well as sell up the store-issued two year gaming protection plan? I don't even work in the electronics department. I work in grocery.


Part time at $12 an hour and three days a week is godly. I would never be able to complain about that.
User avatar #145 to #9 - hoponthefeelstrain
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I work part time at a nail salon pretty sweet when I do work, I usually get free food and huge tips and my boss has started cutting hours even though the business is expanding. It's been 3 weeks and I haven't worked a single day... when you work part time aren't you entitled to a certain amount of hours?
User avatar #184 to #9 - approval
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I have my job through family connections. 16 an hour(not even close to the top tier of the area I'm in) 48-72 hours a week(12 hour shifts). You have class so it's understandable for you, but she needs to quit bitching.
User avatar #19 to #9 - kikisu
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I work 12 hour shifts on the weekends, so I get 36 hours in 3 days. I know the feel.
#12 to #9 - tjocksnorris
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i work 9 hours a day, for nothing   
   
 **** yeah being an apprentice or whatever u call it
i work 9 hours a day, for nothing

**** yeah being an apprentice or whatever u call it
User avatar #13 to #12 - calawesome
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Payoff's worth it though.
#60 to #12 - viralkamina
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i feel you. gonna have to work a whole year for free starting next month. i am SO greateful that my parents pay me at least a little bit on their own...
#142 to #12 - allinallout **User deleted account**
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are you seriously complaining about having an apprenticeship? lol suck a dick

sincerely, every intern who ever lived.
#296 to #142 - tjocksnorris
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no
#77 - skir
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As a huge economics guy, I cringe when I see this dialogue. It's mainly talking points to pit everyone making less than 300K against conservatives. The reality is very different:   
   
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/research-desk-did-the-top-1-percent-inherit-its-wealth/2011/11/04/gIQA4T8kmM_blog.html   
   
Only 14.7 % of the top 1% inherit their wealth and the percentage is going down.   
   
In fact, the truth is rather the opposite: "Wolff and Gittleman also find that because wealth transfers generally make up a bigger portion of the wealth of poor and middle-class people, they actually reduce wealth inequality, in aggregate."    
   
Please do some independent research. Especially when it comes to BS non-issues such as minimum wage and taxes. Or ignore my comment because it's easier to have a attention span of 0
As a huge economics guy, I cringe when I see this dialogue. It's mainly talking points to pit everyone making less than 300K against conservatives. The reality is very different:

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/research-desk-did-the-top-1-percent-inherit-its-wealth/2011/11/04/gIQA4T8kmM_blog.html

Only 14.7 % of the top 1% inherit their wealth and the percentage is going down.

In fact, the truth is rather the opposite: "Wolff and Gittleman also find that because wealth transfers generally make up a bigger portion of the wealth of poor and middle-class people, they actually reduce wealth inequality, in aggregate."

Please do some independent research. Especially when it comes to BS non-issues such as minimum wage and taxes. Or ignore my comment because it's easier to have a attention span of 0
User avatar #195 to #77 - zarcos
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All these angry libs thumbing you down, hopefully they're all dirty socialist Europeans that can't vote in the US, but I'm not optimistic enough to believe that.
User avatar #215 to #77 - nought
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**** the people who thumbed down, I'm not rich but what you say is true
just FJ is too blind to get out of the "evil rich people" cliche mindset, typical internet trope
#264 to #215 - anon id: 6b70e955
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Is it just the "evil rich people" mindset? It's content about an idiot rich kid. Thumbing down doesn't mean that anyone disagrees the top <insert number here> percentile isn't first generation wealth. It also doesn't mean "**** the king rich". From where I'm sitting, it seems more like you're being an asshole trying to look for a reason to say "**** all of FJ is stupid".

"The straw man fallacy" isn't just a river in Egypt.
#82 to #77 - gwarrarr
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....less than 300k? I'm pretty sure it's everyone that is making less than 50k...considering thats 90% of the country.

Also, like how your "independent Research" is a Washington Post blog. Good research bro.
#99 to #82 - Whaaaaaaaaa
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I like this comment, this is a nice comment.
#301 to #82 - skir
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I love the coping mechanism you utilize to defend your point. If you had any real sense of reading comprehension you would realize what I meant.

I foresaw the obvious lack of intelligence in this community and tried looking for the briefest article possible. If you actually read the blog post it's a summary of an actual published paper.

Here's the link to the 41 Page paper: www.bls.gov/ore/pdf/ec110030.pdf

The 300K comment was mainly satire. I assume the majority or a sizable sum of the FJ community live in an upper middle class neighborhood4. Obviously these people should not be concerned with wealth inequality but the propaganda is so strong that it penetrates them too.

I'm incredibly shocked at the amount of red thumbs my original comment garnered. I merely stated facts without much opinion.

I want to leave with this: The politics and issues that the majority of individuals are receiving are incredibly dumbed down. The purpose of political parties is to dumb down politics. While conservatives have their gods and guns, liberals have their victim complex's and social justice warriors. Take the time and read between the lines. The world is a simple place where politicians play it like the game of Spore.
#322 to #301 - gwarrarr
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The Majority sum of the FJ community lives in the upper middle class? Have you ever met a 19 year old college student who was "upper Middle class" cuz thats what we are.



Just because you like to tote yourself as "factual" and not "opinionated" doesn't make you right.



If you think the FJ community is "Upper Middle Class" then I will never believe a goddamn word you say because you are 100% retarded.
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#48 to #21 - anon id: 8b89d283
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She actually got 75 million, still how easy is it to start a business with 75 ******* MILLION, then tell the person who makes 50k a year even to do anything with mortgage, taxes, price of petrol and everything else going up..
#183 to #48 - anon id: 275486be
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Don't defend the rich
User avatar #223 to #183 - undeadwill
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Why?
User avatar #7 - infinitereaper
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So many of these faggots are so completely out of touch with reality kidnap them and put them in a room full of bread

except all the bread is crusts!
#190 to #7 - supercookieduster
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User avatar #22 to #7 - ljxjlos
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Count me in, I prefer the crust.
User avatar #8 to #7 - lordlolland
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If you ever run for office, no matter where, give us some advance notice so we have time to move there and be eligible to vote by the time the election comes around.
#81 to #8 - lplplplp
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Or a room filled with dry pie
#10 - anon id: f57156d2
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if you can't find a job it really isn't that hard to go down to your local walmart and get one. They hire people all the time. They often will give you 40 hours a week from the moment you are done with training
#16 to #10 - anon id: 804b298c
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As long as you have a social security number and a place of residence. If you're homeless you're ******.
User avatar #17 to #10 - ninjaroo
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Walmart pays so little its employees have to get welfare.
#53 to #17 - turbontine
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Wait honest question does walmart not pay minimum wage? Or are you just saying that minimum wage is not enough? Would you like to raise minimum wage? If so, to what amount?
User avatar #70 to #53 - gcloud
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it pay minimum wage, around were i live about 10 bucks and minimum wage is 7.25 here
tho 10 bucks isnt enough to live by maybe if u have a freind making the same u can live in an apartment with him but even still if they raise the minimum wage the big businesses will just raise their prices and nothing will change
#67 to #53 - anon id: 5bb01f57
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They pay around minimum wage, but their middle management is notorious for abusing loopholes to not pay employees for a full 8-hour workday (granted, they've cracked down on it in recent years, but it still happens in some locations).
User avatar #62 to #53 - Ruspanic
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Wal-mart pays slightly above minimum wage, but in most places in the US minimum wage isn't enough to live on - or at least it's not enough to support a family.
#40 to #17 - endospore
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Dude, EVERY job that will hire someone with no experience, education or previous training will pay you that little. I'm currently working retail while searching for a real job (just graduated college) and they pay 10 bucks an hour, and that's an incredibly good starting pay for retail. My brother worked at Newbury Comics for years and they only paid him 10.40 an hour when he left. I dare you to find any entry level retail job that pays a basic living wage. Spoiler: You can't.

Without roommates, the cheapest apartment I found was 530 for a one bedroom, no utilities. I make that in 2 weeks, which leaves only another 500 for gas, food, utilities, and any other bills. Oh, and my student loand repayments are 250 a month, and my car insurance is another 50, so that actually only leaves 200 to live on a month.

This is why democrats (mostly) want to raise the minimum wage. It is mathematically impossible to support yourself on that little money.
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#132 to #76 - endospore
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Not only is that not retail, but death rates for oil rig workers are seven times the national average, with injuries even more common. Blue collar jobs almost always pay a living wage for little skill, but they also have taxing physical requirements, long hours, and an incredibly high mortality rate.

There are plenty of entry level jobs that pay more most entry level jobs in environmental science are in the 40-50k range, but that's part of the problem since everyone wants them. , but with no training, no experience, no skills, and no risk, you'll be lucky to even get 10/hr.
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#115 - mikepetru
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"Ya, I work about 32 jobs over the course of a week. I think it’s interesting I got 32 and most ****** say they can’t find one."
User avatar #122 to #115 - fullpotatomode
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because most people don't trust them new ******* over there