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#40 - xentacle (11/13/2013) [-]
Unless you want a shit-tierjob this post is accurate, but none of you have the right to complain...   
   
Employers aren't going to employ someone who has just done well in their tests because some people are just smart and can do minimal work and get decent grades. Some people just sit at home doing nothing and then take their tests and pass with flying colours. Employers want proof that you're a motivated person, capable of sorting things out for yourself and that you're good at co-operating/working in a team.   
Interviewers ask questions like these to filter out the lazy people who never went out and got experience for  themselves, school is not a place to get these life skills, school helps you academically, and whilst academia is important, so are life skills. You can bet that if someone who has a lot of life-skills but lacking the grades on most terms won't be granted the job because they are looking for the all round best candidate.   
   
You can't expect to just go to school, browse the internet everyday,  get your grades, then land in some comfortable job (although some lucky people can -.- ).  Because the REAL WORLD just isn't like that.
Unless you want a shit-tierjob this post is accurate, but none of you have the right to complain...

Employers aren't going to employ someone who has just done well in their tests because some people are just smart and can do minimal work and get decent grades. Some people just sit at home doing nothing and then take their tests and pass with flying colours. Employers want proof that you're a motivated person, capable of sorting things out for yourself and that you're good at co-operating/working in a team.
Interviewers ask questions like these to filter out the lazy people who never went out and got experience for themselves, school is not a place to get these life skills, school helps you academically, and whilst academia is important, so are life skills. You can bet that if someone who has a lot of life-skills but lacking the grades on most terms won't be granted the job because they are looking for the all round best candidate.

You can't expect to just go to school, browse the internet everyday, get your grades, then land in some comfortable job (although some lucky people can -.- ). Because the REAL WORLD just isn't like that.


User avatar #43 to #40 - sodaberg (11/13/2013) [-]
I think your definition of the 'REAL WORLD' is pretty narrow and uninspired. If you work hard in school you can expect to go on to get a good degree at a good university, which should really involve you studying something you enjoy, which is a form of training in itself to do the job you want to do. Social attitudes that emphasise preparing for a dull 9-5 grind for the rest of your instead of working hard at school to move onto further quality training/education for a topic that interests you are detrimental to social mobility.
User avatar #49 to #43 - xentacle (11/13/2013) [-]
My definition of the real world is legit. What Im trying to say is, you can't get everything handed to you on a plate and if you think that's illegitimate you're crazy.

I know someone who got 9 A*'s at gcse, and AAB at A level, and got barely any offers due to his personal statement being shit. Uni is the same, they want individual flare from every candidate especially now because its becoming more and more competitive to get into.

and the 9-5 job you're hinting at is what I'd call a shit-tier job. So if you read what I've said properly you'd realize that your comment is irrelevant
#61 to #49 - anonymous (11/13/2013) [-]
The problem is your perception of what the school should be doing. If ppl are graduating without the proper skills, that means the school isn't doing shit. The whole reason we have them is to train professionals, not to just give u a nice piece of paper with your name on it. If that means that evaluation methods need to change, or fewer ppl graduate, then so be it; but u can't reasonably expect ppl with no knowledge of what awaits them after college to simply find that out, and to learn the right skills all on their own.
User avatar #67 to #61 - xentacle (11/13/2013) [-]
I don't really understand what you're saying here, nor do I understand you're backtracking this to the education system as its just completely irrelevant. What I think you've done is managed to misunderstand the difference between a life-skill (e.g conversation skills, teamwork, character building) and a skill which can be obtained by an education (like a PHD.)
As I have said before, the school is obliged to help you ACADEMICALLY, but its up to YOU AND ONLY YOU to develop life skills
Example..the school can give people the necessary skills to properly identify a type of flower, and learn properly how to dissect it and conduct tests on it, form here you could get a certificate to work in a lab.
however this lab has many values and seeks individuals who are capable of working together (TEAMWORK IS A LIFE SKILL), and people who have spent a lot of time outdoors working with flowers (INDEPENDENT RESEARCH IS A LIFE SKILL)

The school is not expected to get you off the fucking computer and get outside OUT OF SCHOOL HOURS to go and learn about THE REAL FUCKIN WORLD

yes you most definitely can expect people to develop skills on their own, you can do charity work, volunteer, Be a part of something bigger like a band or a cadet organization, get work experience, go on expeditions, run a club, learn a new skill. Those are to name a few.
Also, log-in , faggot.
#74 to #67 - anonymous (11/13/2013) [-]
Teamwork can be learned in courses, independent research can be made mandatory, internships can be made mandatory and guided, and certificates can be offered by the school itself. I.e.: Some colleges in other countries require you to do an internship in order to graduate. My high school required me to do social work in order to graduate.

The original post is about how students come out of college with very few to none applicable skills. The education system is largely responsible for that.
User avatar #75 to #74 - xentacle (11/13/2013) [-]
The students coming out of college with no applicable skills are the ones I spoke of , who don't take courses and things like that, the ones who did absolutely fuck all, just read their textbooks and take the test. SOME schools CAN do the things you have said. But they also have very good reasons not to, whatever they may be.

I suggest next time you respond to a point, you actually read what the person had said. Otherwise you come across as an idiot.

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