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lathyrusvii (01/10/2016) [-] I don't think anyone generally goes.
I think they generally get taken.
I think they generally get taken.
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mcmanybucks (01/11/2016) [-] There are actually some poor homeless people who intentionally break in somewhere with the purpose of going to jail so they at least have a roof.
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cheatman (01/11/2016) [-] You ever seen 'The Shawshank Redemption'? That covers both areas, about men who can't cope being in prison, and men who become too dependant on the system. I ain't never been to prison but I can imagine it'd be something like my job, hate it but am too comfortable in doing what I do to quit.
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theruinedsage (01/10/2016) [-] The meaning of prison isn't to punish people
Neither is it to act as a detergent
Because both of these don't work. If they did, crime would have been non-existent in the middle ages, where you would either juts be killed or thrown in a hole in the ground. Didn't work then, won't work now. Some states have tried to humiliate prisoners to make them stop doing crime, and they have the highest fall-back rates.
The meaning of prison is to figure out why person does crime, and then fix it. And if the reason person does crime is that person is a dick, then to keep them away from the rest of society for as long as possible.
Neither is it to act as a detergent
Because both of these don't work. If they did, crime would have been non-existent in the middle ages, where you would either juts be killed or thrown in a hole in the ground. Didn't work then, won't work now. Some states have tried to humiliate prisoners to make them stop doing crime, and they have the highest fall-back rates.
The meaning of prison is to figure out why person does crime, and then fix it. And if the reason person does crime is that person is a dick, then to keep them away from the rest of society for as long as possible.
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cheatman (01/11/2016) [-] People keep bringing this up about the prison system, but nobody has ever come up with a better solution that doesn't violate human rights.
Crime existed in the middle ages because theft will always be a crime, however the reasons behind the crimes have changed. Back then, it was survival. Steal or starve, kill or be killed, there weren't any CCTV catch out who did what. Nowdays though, most crime is purely for indulgence, doing it for the thrill of it, because it looks cool, and the laws are lax because there also laws to protect the criminals who commit them. Again, human rights.
Why won't governments really change human rights treaties to help combat crime, simple, they themselves are criminals, and if they are ever caught, human rights will make sure that when they are sentenced, they will get 3 meals a day and a bed to sleep in.
Crime existed in the middle ages because theft will always be a crime, however the reasons behind the crimes have changed. Back then, it was survival. Steal or starve, kill or be killed, there weren't any CCTV catch out who did what. Nowdays though, most crime is purely for indulgence, doing it for the thrill of it, because it looks cool, and the laws are lax because there also laws to protect the criminals who commit them. Again, human rights.
Why won't governments really change human rights treaties to help combat crime, simple, they themselves are criminals, and if they are ever caught, human rights will make sure that when they are sentenced, they will get 3 meals a day and a bed to sleep in.
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cheatman (01/11/2016) [-] What I said was I could understand how it feels for the prisoners who become dependant on the prison system to be their way of life, not that my job itself was like prison, but If I did have to compare, there ARE some comparisons, such as you're not there by your own free will, you have to come face to face with people who'd walk all over you, and your rights only go as far as how much **** the management/warden can get away with. The differences out weigh the similarities substantially, but there similarities.
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notjustalurker (01/11/2016) [-] Thats how you see it man, but that doesnt mean its the only way, or the "right" way.
In my opinion the purpose of prison is to separate those people who cant live with normal ones. We keep the uncivilized animals who are incapable of life in society. For exemple, take school shooters, i understand they can be cured and become normal human beings, but i am not willing to take the risk of having one of those people running around free.
Even if he is better, i simply think the risk of him committing another crime is too high to leave him free. The same goes for any other type of criminal, the longer we maintain them inside jail, the less risky it will be for other people.
In my opinion the purpose of prison is to separate those people who cant live with normal ones. We keep the uncivilized animals who are incapable of life in society. For exemple, take school shooters, i understand they can be cured and become normal human beings, but i am not willing to take the risk of having one of those people running around free.
Even if he is better, i simply think the risk of him committing another crime is too high to leave him free. The same goes for any other type of criminal, the longer we maintain them inside jail, the less risky it will be for other people.
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Jowi (01/11/2016) [-]
And the more costly...
You're saying you can't see any criminal as being just some regular person who made a wrong decision? That a person who shoplifts is deserving a life sentence just in the hopes it stops them reoffending?
That's just stupid and a society can't survive where every little mistake is punished to the nth degree
You're saying you can't see any criminal as being just some regular person who made a wrong decision? That a person who shoplifts is deserving a life sentence just in the hopes it stops them reoffending?
That's just stupid and a society can't survive where every little mistake is punished to the nth degree
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notjustalurker (01/11/2016) [-] Yeah, things need to be taken in moderation, i didn't mean to imply every person who commits every single crime no matter how small should be locked up for life. That would be too extreme.
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djmaryhikineet (01/11/2016) [-] mainly b/c then jail would every one in it and then it be the society, it just becomes a normal society just in former societys prisons.
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djmaryhikineet (01/11/2016) [-] do note "uncivilized animals who are incapable of life in society" doesn't apply to even half those in jail, its more jail is a place to keep those who broke the law and are being punished by wasting their time for as long as the sentience and try to deter others from doing the same. most people in jail are in on minor offense too, your right about it as a way to hold those who cant follow the rules but that doesn't mean those who cant follow the rules all had the choose to follow them or not. context is key but we tend to forget that and assume everyone is in for rape or murder when most people are only in jail for petty crimes
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djmaryhikineet (01/11/2016) [-] no prison is both a deterrent and a punishment, people still do crime b/c of the situation in which they live requires it more often then not. its the same as sinning people still sin even though they know they "can" go to hell. prison is a way to hold those who have done crimes and deter those from doing more crimes b/c other wise those who have done crime could go a ramped crime spree or people would kill each other more then they do now. also we remember stuff better after undergoing pain wither physical or not, so your right on how jail is a way to show who can return to society but it also holds those who cant and deters others
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anon (01/10/2016) [-]
No, prison is to keep dangerous people away from civilized society.
If they don't want to go to prison maybe they should stop raping, robbing and murdering.
Like goddamn it's not hard.
It's not like they're little kids ''Oh poor Tyrone didn't understand that little Susan didn't want to be raped and murdered.'' They understand exactly what they do, they know they shouldn't do it and yet they still do.
If they don't want to go to prison maybe they should stop raping, robbing and murdering.
Like goddamn it's not hard.
It's not like they're little kids ''Oh poor Tyrone didn't understand that little Susan didn't want to be raped and murdered.'' They understand exactly what they do, they know they shouldn't do it and yet they still do.
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theruinedsage (01/10/2016) [-] Implying that rapists and murderers are what's filling out jails
Financial crime happens when people have no other way to make money. That's a problem you simply don't fix by putting people away for several years. If you really think that's the solution, you're a gigantic moron with the insight of a headless chicken.
Financial crime happens when people have no other way to make money. That's a problem you simply don't fix by putting people away for several years. If you really think that's the solution, you're a gigantic moron with the insight of a headless chicken.
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lastweek (01/11/2016) [-] Punishment is a necessity though, otherwise it wouldn't prevent crime before it is committed, only after. The fear of punishment helps prevent crime, just not all of it. While the goal during the time of imprisonment is to resolve issues leading the person to commit crimes and protect the public from them it should also serve as a punishment, although it can be far too extreme at times. If there's no actual punishment for the crime one could simply get free food and housing and abuse the system. Privately owned prisons need prisoners to get more money so that entire concept is just meant to ruin people's life even more as they are in prison.
A bit beside the point but one of the reasons that it's good for education to be free no need to ******** about what to call it, no one is stupid enough to actually think it isn't payed for is so that prisoners can get an education while they are in prison, which may allow them to turn their lives around once they get out and improve society
A bit beside the point but one of the reasons that it's good for education to be free no need to ******** about what to call it, no one is stupid enough to actually think it isn't payed for is so that prisoners can get an education while they are in prison, which may allow them to turn their lives around once they get out and improve society
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failtolawl (01/10/2016) [-] It's true, there are many of people who have pretty much had their life turned into one against the system because they grew up in prison. I suppose you just gotta watch Oz for what I mean, but it happens in real life.
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Ruspanic (01/10/2016) [-] Deterrence does work, don't be ridiculous. The prospect of going to jail is enough to stop many people from committing crimes. It's just that there's not a simple direct relationship between the severity of the punishment and the degree of deterrence, so you can't expect brutal medieval-style punishment to prevent 100% of crimes.
Rehabilitation and incapacitation, which you mentioned, are also legitimate functions of criminal justice. You're right about that.
Rehabilitation and incapacitation, which you mentioned, are also legitimate functions of criminal justice. You're right about that.
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theruinedsage (01/10/2016) [-] What do you expect from a country who tries to earn money on their citizens?
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weightedtemp (01/10/2016) [-] Alcatraz detergent and fabric softener. When dirt breaks in and rapes your clothes, use Alcatraz
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vladi (01/10/2016) [-] ******* this. And those people who want really harsh punishment and long prison sentences, I think they just want revenge for what they did to society. But that won't solve anything. Better focus on rehabilitation, even if that means going "soft" on them. Society fares better with a free rehabilitated person than a criminal hardened by a long ass time in prison (who is still a hardened criminal when he gets free).
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weightedtemp (01/10/2016) [-] If you want to go "soft", try Alcatraz detergent and fabric softener. When your clothes are hardened by a life of crime, nothing will soften them up like Alcatraz
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infinitereaper (01/10/2016) [-] Prison pretty much accomplishes the opposite.
It identifies the problem, captures it, then exacerbates it.
Prison turns criminals into villains.
Then makes them unemployable, so they cannot eat food without resorting to crime.
It's wonderful yeah?
It identifies the problem, captures it, then exacerbates it.
Prison turns criminals into villains.
Then makes them unemployable, so they cannot eat food without resorting to crime.
It's wonderful yeah?
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
Couple that up with the "for-profit" prison systems we have in the US, and a one-time felon suddenly becomes worth more to the stockholders of the prisons while he is locked up behind bars, than he ever will be as a civilian on the streets completely incapable of finding steady employment and paying taxes.
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anon (01/10/2016) [-]
Suddenly told your rights.
Handcuffed.
Thrown into the back of a car.
Forced into a box with a bunch of pissed off people.
Which is inside another box.
Which is in yet another box.
Fed trash food.
Denied the rights you were told you had.
You weren't arrested.
You were kidnapped.
Handcuffed.
Thrown into the back of a car.
Forced into a box with a bunch of pissed off people.
Which is inside another box.
Which is in yet another box.
Fed trash food.
Denied the rights you were told you had.
You weren't arrested.
You were kidnapped.
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installation (01/10/2016) [-]
To all of you saying this doesn't happen, well I wish I could agree with you. This does happen in Chicago. Here's an example that we know about.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/19/homan-square-chicago-police-disappeared-thousands
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/19/homan-square-chicago-police-disappeared-thousands
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installation (01/11/2016) [-] ****** , I live in Chicago. Everybody knows about htis now.
www.cnn.com/2015/12/15/us/chicago-homan-square-hearing/
www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-homan-square-lawsuit-20151020-story.html
gawker.com/7-000-people-were-detained-at-homan-square-chicago-pds-1737347973
www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/02/behind-the-disappeared-of-chicagos-homan-square/385964/
www.cnn.com/2015/12/15/us/chicago-homan-square-hearing/
www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-homan-square-lawsuit-20151020-story.html
gawker.com/7-000-people-were-detained-at-homan-square-chicago-pds-1737347973
www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/02/behind-the-disappeared-of-chicagos-homan-square/385964/
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deathcapjungle (01/10/2016) [-]
"Oh, also your're also a serial gay rapist, but seriously life is unfair, yo."
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lolollo (01/11/2016) [-] I hope you guys realize that when you see some **** like this, and your first instinct is to say "must've done something!"...that's precisely the level of logic use to incarcerate a hilarious number of people back in the 80s and 90s, when the police were bullying any and everyone for confessions, and a hunch was as good as confirmed for "whodunit!"
Being wrongfully imprisoned has got to be one of the biggest injustices you can have done to you, and the few of you who give in the idea that you must've done something because you're in prison are the reason it exists as a concern...
Being wrongfully imprisoned has got to be one of the biggest injustices you can have done to you, and the few of you who give in the idea that you must've done something because you're in prison are the reason it exists as a concern...
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lolollo (01/11/2016) [-] That's also not the implication I'm getting at you ******* dildo. When you plea ignorance of the problem under the guise that you have to take the extreme, paranoid option just to have a stance related to a controversy, you let the victims of the legitimate controversy go to the wayside. It's not saying "the government is out to get you!" but this concern is, intact, a thing which has, and can occur.
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quantumranger (01/10/2016) [-] >murder someone
>get arrested
>"They kidnapped me! My rights are being violated!"
>get arrested
>"They kidnapped me! My rights are being violated!"
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asotil (01/11/2016) [-] >This Tumblr tier interpretation of being arrested
>"The police are kidnapping people, dindu nuffins wrong"
You some Upper Class white kid from Connecticut who is going to a well rated university on their parents money for a degree in either Arts or Social Sciences having never worked a job in your life or what?
>"The police are kidnapping people, dindu nuffins wrong"
You some Upper Class white kid from Connecticut who is going to a well rated university on their parents money for a degree in either Arts or Social Sciences having never worked a job in your life or what?
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quantumranger (01/10/2016) [-] >implying that's even remotely relevant
>being this ignorant about police culture in America
You some suburban middle class kid or what?
>being this ignorant about police culture in America
You some suburban middle class kid or what?
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amuzen (01/10/2016) [-]
Eh a lot of the people that end of in prison get there because of ****** circumstances, bad luck and poor legal representation/understanding. Dropping a baby, leaving a small child in the same room as a grape for around a minute to go to the bathroom after you've had a beer, smoking a little pot, walking in on drunk minors, making a woman angry, punching a guy in the face in the wrong way, talking to cops instead of immediately asking for a lawyer, being accursed of a crime when you have a generally unlikable personality. All these things can-and have- wound people up in jail if not straight up prison. The legal system in the US is terribly flawed and the desire to ignore these flaws and assume it's and absolute perfect system is one of those flaws.
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dazartimm (01/11/2016) [-] If you drop a baby or leave a kid alone with something that could kill them, that's entirely your fault. It doesn't matter if you "had a beer", they were supposed to be supervising the child. Why were they even drinking? "smoking a little pot" won't get you put in prison. Maybe jail for a day or two if you live in a really ****** part of the USA. "Walking in on drunk minors" or "making a woman angry" won't get you sent to prison. Providing alcohol to minors or pissing off a woman who knows something illegal you did are a different story. There is no wrong way to punch a guy in the face, if you do that you're going to jail as soon as the cops hear. If you get sentenced because you told the police something without your lawyer present, it wasn't just because you talked to them, it's because you GAVE THEM EVIDENCE. I'm not even going to comment on the "unlikable personality" one. But you obviously don't care, since you just made all this **** up in the first place to be edgy on the internet.
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amuzen (01/11/2016) [-]
the kid with the grape one: a man that lived up the street from me for the majority of my life went to prison for 5 years because he was watching his 7 Y/O niece while his brother and his wife were on their honeymoon. The guy subscribed to a sort of two beers a day life style and didn't really have a lot of other things to occupy his time. He went to take a **** , came back and found the little girl had choked to death on what would later be revealed to be a grape that had fallen on the floor earlier. Since there was evidence he had been drinking (I.E. the two beers, no where near enough to get him drunk) and he had next to no legal representation he got prison time for it.
Smoking a little pot, yeah this is usually more jail time and a criminal record than anything but I feel a need to gripe about it because a common tactic used by the police in my hometown when they caught a drug dealer was to try and get that drug dealer to sell people weed by the ounce so they could bust them on their way out of the door and charge them for trafficking it. My first encounter with this was when I went to visit a friend and his room mate tried to sell me an ounce of weed for 60 bucks, I declined because with my smoking habits a gram is enough to last me a bit more than a month and I didn't know what I would do with an ounce. Directly after I got out of the drive way I got pulled over and searched by the police.
Walking in on drunk minors, Another thing that I think more just throws you in jail and ***** on your life than anything else. I've found myself in situations where I've walked in on a bunch of drinking minors a couple times in my life. Generally i just leave but I've heard stories of people kind of getting stuck in these situations then getting caught and charged for providing alchohol to minors.
Pissing of a woman, Again more something I've just heard stories about than actually encountered myself but I've heard a bunch of stories of guys get falsely accused of rape and being charged and jailed for it because as it stands when it comes to rape it's guilty until proven innocent instead of the other way around.
Punching a guy in the face in the wrong way. One of my friends older brothers got 'up to 10 years jail' not that long back because he got in a bar fight with another dude and ended up giving him a major concussion. Everyone that witnessed the event either said the other guy started it or said that they 'didn't see the whole thing'
Talking to cops instead of immediately asking for some form of legal representation
This is the one that effected me and my family the most personally. My brother was a certified fire fighter for the Alaska forest service. He got back into town for a bit on leave. During his time in town he got a tooth removed so they gave him some Oxycontin for the pain. towards the end of the week he went to a friends house party and got drunk. The house party got busted up for a noise complaint and the cops smelled pot when they arrived so they searched everyone. They found the prescription vial of Oxycontin on my brother. They accused him of Illegally trafficking it because he didn't have his prescription papers on him at the time. They told him if he pleaded guilty to the crime he would be fined and be able to return to work on monday but if he contested it he would have to wait on trial for a few weeks. He was afraid of losing his job and trusted the police to a huge extent so he agreed to plead guilty.
He was thrown in jail for 30 days, put on probation, and lost his job. While in jail he made some really ****** friends and after that fell into a pretty bad downward spiral of depression, alcoholism, and anger issues. Last time I went up to our home island I couldn't stay anywhere near him because he had surrounded himself by meth heads, alcoholics and thieves.
The last one is more assumption on my part and I have no real evidence for it however I do know that charisma plays a part in the judicial process
Smoking a little pot, yeah this is usually more jail time and a criminal record than anything but I feel a need to gripe about it because a common tactic used by the police in my hometown when they caught a drug dealer was to try and get that drug dealer to sell people weed by the ounce so they could bust them on their way out of the door and charge them for trafficking it. My first encounter with this was when I went to visit a friend and his room mate tried to sell me an ounce of weed for 60 bucks, I declined because with my smoking habits a gram is enough to last me a bit more than a month and I didn't know what I would do with an ounce. Directly after I got out of the drive way I got pulled over and searched by the police.
Walking in on drunk minors, Another thing that I think more just throws you in jail and ***** on your life than anything else. I've found myself in situations where I've walked in on a bunch of drinking minors a couple times in my life. Generally i just leave but I've heard stories of people kind of getting stuck in these situations then getting caught and charged for providing alchohol to minors.
Pissing of a woman, Again more something I've just heard stories about than actually encountered myself but I've heard a bunch of stories of guys get falsely accused of rape and being charged and jailed for it because as it stands when it comes to rape it's guilty until proven innocent instead of the other way around.
Punching a guy in the face in the wrong way. One of my friends older brothers got 'up to 10 years jail' not that long back because he got in a bar fight with another dude and ended up giving him a major concussion. Everyone that witnessed the event either said the other guy started it or said that they 'didn't see the whole thing'
Talking to cops instead of immediately asking for some form of legal representation
This is the one that effected me and my family the most personally. My brother was a certified fire fighter for the Alaska forest service. He got back into town for a bit on leave. During his time in town he got a tooth removed so they gave him some Oxycontin for the pain. towards the end of the week he went to a friends house party and got drunk. The house party got busted up for a noise complaint and the cops smelled pot when they arrived so they searched everyone. They found the prescription vial of Oxycontin on my brother. They accused him of Illegally trafficking it because he didn't have his prescription papers on him at the time. They told him if he pleaded guilty to the crime he would be fined and be able to return to work on monday but if he contested it he would have to wait on trial for a few weeks. He was afraid of losing his job and trusted the police to a huge extent so he agreed to plead guilty.
He was thrown in jail for 30 days, put on probation, and lost his job. While in jail he made some really ****** friends and after that fell into a pretty bad downward spiral of depression, alcoholism, and anger issues. Last time I went up to our home island I couldn't stay anywhere near him because he had surrounded himself by meth heads, alcoholics and thieves.
The last one is more assumption on my part and I have no real evidence for it however I do know that charisma plays a part in the judicial process
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fatsigurd (01/11/2016) [-] you mean don't go to prison for smoking weed, which does not harm anyone, to fill the pockets of private prison owners?
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stevencolbert (01/11/2016) [-] Whoa what the **** ? A "Private Prison"? Teach me the ways of America
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chuca (01/11/2016) [-] Pretty much what it sounds like, a privately owned prison. The government gives them so much money based on how many prisoners they're holding. So they started lobbying for harsher penalties on crimes, especially minor drug crimes such as possession of weed, so that people are sent to prison more often and for longer periods. Which in turn gives them more money.
TL&DR Prisons became a business and are basically jailing people for profit.
TL&DR Prisons became a business and are basically jailing people for profit.
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nachobeldavid (01/11/2016) [-] YES, 90% TAX RATES FOR ALL WHITE PEOPLE, FREE MONEY FOR BLACKS AND JEWS! #FEELTHEBERN
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nachobeldavid (01/11/2016) [-] He wants to put an end to that private-owned prison and prison lobbyist pushing for ******** drug laws. He wants the FDA to take Mary off their list. He wants to use that money spent on bombs to spend toward putting citizens through school, so we're not breeding generations of broke-ass "I have to enlist because I have nothing" wave of people. But, vote for whoever. Just please vote. And vote those relics out of Congress. They have no term limits.
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heartlessrobot (01/11/2016) [-] Here, it's illegal to eat peanutbutter walking backwards outside a theater, while an opera is going on inside, on a monday.
Some laws don't make sense.
Some laws don't make sense.
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manofbacontits (01/11/2016) [-] obtain and smoke something that is still illegal in many places besides my state and colorado? yes. that's illegal. It doesn't matter how much you love to get high and have fun. Just because you like it, doesn't mean its any less illegal. get off your ******* high horse and vote for it like the rest of us instead of running your mouth
I know i have the unpopular opinion here and im going to be lost in a sea of red but i cant ******* stand people they base their lives around a simple substance. yes, i smoke tobacco and i drink alcohol, but i don't ******* worship those things. they are up for sale to people at a certain age, so their is also a legal battle to be fought with those substances as well. I know that if i drink and drive or give a cigarette to a minor, there is gonna be some repercussions to that, and i would recognise that as my own fault
what's that? you smoked weed and got caught doing something you aren't supposed to be doing and now you are in trouble? well i guess we better blame the man, right? it's not like that would be taking the easy ******* way out right? everything can be blamed on the government because we've grown a hive mind that every thing is their fault.
"oh boo hoo. I have all these great things in the world to enjoy and use every day but now I noticed there's something i'm not supposed to have. I WANT IT NOW! ITS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT I HAVE THIS BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE IT BEFORE, THERE FOR I NEEEEED IT"
This is not to say that i haven't ever tried it before and i'm just acting like a prude. I tried it twice and i don't ever want to do it again, due to how it made me feel. In place of that, i will still hang with friends that smoke it and act as their DD and keep them from getting caught with it. I enjoy being around people when their high! they make me feel like im actually a funny guy TBH. but one friend who i vowed off for other reasons was a political stoner and would just prattle on about how ****** the government is and that weed is the best thing ever and how badly we need to make it legal...
I ask him "pray tell. can you just learn to fill out a ballot and smoke with the rest of us? just shut up for a sec, take a hit and ******* enjoy yourself. if you came out here to this mormon church parking lot to smoke an illegal substance with us, you have no moral right to preach what is right and what is wrong"
I know i have the unpopular opinion here and im going to be lost in a sea of red but i cant ******* stand people they base their lives around a simple substance. yes, i smoke tobacco and i drink alcohol, but i don't ******* worship those things. they are up for sale to people at a certain age, so their is also a legal battle to be fought with those substances as well. I know that if i drink and drive or give a cigarette to a minor, there is gonna be some repercussions to that, and i would recognise that as my own fault
what's that? you smoked weed and got caught doing something you aren't supposed to be doing and now you are in trouble? well i guess we better blame the man, right? it's not like that would be taking the easy ******* way out right? everything can be blamed on the government because we've grown a hive mind that every thing is their fault.
"oh boo hoo. I have all these great things in the world to enjoy and use every day but now I noticed there's something i'm not supposed to have. I WANT IT NOW! ITS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT I HAVE THIS BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE IT BEFORE, THERE FOR I NEEEEED IT"
This is not to say that i haven't ever tried it before and i'm just acting like a prude. I tried it twice and i don't ever want to do it again, due to how it made me feel. In place of that, i will still hang with friends that smoke it and act as their DD and keep them from getting caught with it. I enjoy being around people when their high! they make me feel like im actually a funny guy TBH. but one friend who i vowed off for other reasons was a political stoner and would just prattle on about how ****** the government is and that weed is the best thing ever and how badly we need to make it legal...
I ask him "pray tell. can you just learn to fill out a ballot and smoke with the rest of us? just shut up for a sec, take a hit and ******* enjoy yourself. if you came out here to this mormon church parking lot to smoke an illegal substance with us, you have no moral right to preach what is right and what is wrong"
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manofbacontits (01/11/2016) [-] well, that's something i will admit to not addressing. I know many people who have been caught with it and got off easy. It's not an extreme taboo anymore really unless you're are something like an extreme republican christian or something
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
I think prison systems should make their prisoners grow their own food and be somewhat self sustaining rather than funding the **** out of them and treating them like slave labor commerce.
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manofbacontits (01/11/2016) [-] from my time spent working there, ya, it's a little too god some times
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rakogoki (01/10/2016) [-] isnt the point of prison to rehabilitate though? feed them trash and you'll only be making it harder for them to become ordinary people again.
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dehnoobshow (01/11/2016) [-] Most likely the only place they get fed bad things is high security prisons.
Places where really really bad people go to.
Places where really really bad people go to.
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nineinchesdeep (01/10/2016) [-] I say we put all the refugees into Aushwitz, to keep em away from OUR WOMEN.
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mytwocents (01/10/2016) [-] social binding element of a prison and a regular daily routine = safer, longer lasting relatioships
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anon (01/10/2016) [-]
yeah but where nogger with his primitive behaviours and culture will go if not to prison? All his main actions like violence, theft and rape are illigal.. he cant stop doing what he do, its like punishing the cat for killing a mouse - it just the way it is and he cant help it
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therealfell (01/11/2016) [-] if you're in for murder, rape, or harming animals or children
you have no right to bitch
but people shouldn't be thrown in jail for drug use. same for people who steal out of desperation.
you have no right to bitch
but people shouldn't be thrown in jail for drug use. same for people who steal out of desperation.
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therealfell (01/11/2016) [-] maybe there should be meals based on the crime
murderers and **** , especially those on death row, get bread and water
everyone else deserves actual food.
especially since there are many people thrown in prison for things they did not actually do.
murderers and **** , especially those on death row, get bread and water
everyone else deserves actual food.
especially since there are many people thrown in prison for things they did not actually do.
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neverbefore (01/11/2016) [-]
Strip those rich white men out of their expensive suits , ties and shoes and send then to prison
