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User avatar #2 - charagrin
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(01/15/2014) [-]
It's actually pretty neat. www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zGnxeSbb3g
#10 to #2 - bigmanblue
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(01/16/2014) [-]
yeah i dont find that too impressive
i mean sure its fast
but its fast because hes holding the other arrows in his hand before the 1st draw + he barely draws the bow at all
i dont think i once saw in that video him draw his bow more then half way
meaning all of his shots are very weak and only marginaly effective at close range
meaning this tallent is completly and utterly pointless and always would have been
whats the ******* point in being able to shoot fast but weak shots in close range
User avatar #11 to #10 - charagrin
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(01/16/2014) [-]
It's ok because you don't know how bows and arrows work ballistically speaking. An arrow has a lower velocity but a higher kinetic impact rating, while a bullet travels faster, but has a lower kinetic impact rating. Meaning an arrow doesn't have to travel as fast to penetrate as deep. A 40 pound bow at half draw only has 22 pounds of force on the arrow, and yet can throw a 25g arrow at around 110 FPS for a penetration into ballistic gelatin of about 10 inches. In addition it creates a larger wound channel, and depending on the head cannot be pulled out, but most be forced the rest of the way through creating a through-target injury.

Even a "weak" shot from a bow can do as much damage if not more than a standard 9MM defense round(my daily carry). Couple that with lack of proper medical attention, infection, and organ damage, and an arrow is a perfectly acceptable way to defend yourself. I am not saying bows are better than guns. I am just saying a bow would be better than nothing at all. They were phased out for a reason after all.
#12 to #11 - bigmanblue
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(01/16/2014) [-]
yeah none of what you said there has any truth to it
seriously if a bow at half draw was that ******* effective why would they ever bloody full draw it
iv used bows before m8 quite a number of times i know how they work they at half draw they are very weak and probebly wont penetrate a target any more then 8-10 meters away and if they do penetrate it will be quite shallow
the force behind the draw gets proportionatly larger the more you pull it
a 2 inch draw will have more then double a 1 inch draw not just double
as such a half draw is quite weak in comparison to a full draw which will have likely 4-5 times the force behind it
TLDR a weak draw like that will not have much power behind it and will only do shallow penetrations on close targets
User avatar #13 to #12 - charagrin
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(01/16/2014) [-]
For longer range, thats how a bow works. the farther back you draw it the more power it has. A bow at half draw is still devastating at close range. And yes, I know how draw works. I have a 40 pound Bear recurve, a 60 pound handmade bow from here in Maine, and a chronograph. it is pretty easy to set draw against weight/velocity measurements. Hence why my 40 pound Bear measures at 22 pounds at half draw, because, you know, I measured it. It does not increase as you draw, it decreases proportionally as it travels as the material of the bow compresses less and less in proportion to the draw. A two inch draw will have more power than a one inch draw, but not double.

For someone who "knows how a bow works" you don't quite seem to grasp the basics of their use. By all means look it up for yourself. there are thousands of forums frequented by hundreds of thousands of bow enthusiasts. These aren't backroom secrets, these are every day observable facts.
#8 to #2 - hirollin
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(01/15/2014) [-]
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