Black science guy
Hail mam it i Fauna
Just because you cant figure out how
ancient built stuff, deosn' t mean
they got help from Aliens.
Just because you cant figure out how
ancient built stuff, deosn' t mean
they got help from Aliens.
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ffinfinity ONLINE (01/27/2015) [-]
I read the comment and then looked at your pictured. Laughed hard man.
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goddamnitnedra (01/27/2015) [-]
If a word is worth one shekel , silence is worth two.
lol.
lol.
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smartasshobo (01/26/2015) [-] But that also doesn't mean that we didn't get help from those ayy lmao guys
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dashgamer (01/26/2015) [-] He's a covert alien agent here to obfuscate and distract us from the truth.
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derpthefifth (01/27/2015) [-] You obviously already did, because you came up with that story.
I want my weed back, man.
Pure imagination was not intended to be used like that, dude. It's not cool.
I want my weed back, man.
Pure imagination was not intended to be used like that, dude. It's not cool.
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birckin (01/27/2015) [-] In fact, he was a witness to the 9/11. Here's his story, quite shocking. It's worth reading in my opinion.
www.haydenplanetarium.org/tyson/read/2001/09/12/the-horror-the-horror
www.haydenplanetarium.org/tyson/read/2001/09/12/the-horror-the-horror
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brisineo (01/27/2015) [-] While I usually take all accounts of alien interaction with primitive humans and even modern UFO sightings today with a grain of salt unless further proof is provided, I've always been a believer that if there are any interstellar-capable alien species out there in our local area, they're watching us. Even more they might even have fought wars over us.
Considering the resources that this solar system has to offer, being of a rare child of a hypergiant supernova that is the only known natural source of any element heavier than Iron. Gold, lead, copper, thorium, plutonium and uranium exist in large quantities here, especially on the rocky and protected planet Earth (which has the internal tectonics to bring the heavy metals to the surface, and with a surface climate mild enough to not hinder mining) Other planets in the solar system have other compounds that could be potential fuel sources. Our moon is rich in Helium 3, an isotope that is supposedly a powerful fusion fuel.
And while we can't determine the spectrum of our life compared to the types that exist in the galaxy, we are technically a space-capable race. Armed with weapons able to destroy planets. Even if we aren't able to send one of our own past our planet's sphere of influence, the caliber of potential and the acceleration of our technological advancement would be something I would be keeping a VERY close eye on from the outside.
I can't even imagine the politics surrounding our planet if there was such attention. Alien races far more capable and on a different level of understanding, arguing over the fate of our race, whether to let it grow with the risks of our species' psychology, or to scrap the planet for it's resources. Many legends of ancient civilizations recall their deities, outside of all the space-man references demanding specific materials, such as gold and silver. Starting the tradition of offering our precious metals to our gods as a sacrifice. Gold and silver are some of the most valuable metals to science as well for their properties, as it is for their rarity.
You have several ancient and even more modern accounts of UFO's conflicting with each other, even fighting each other off. The Nuremburg "War" of 1561, where the sky was FILLED with all sorts of strange things over the span of weeks across all of Europe, even some of these objects falling to the ground in heaps of fire and metal. Or of some ancient ruins, especially in South America, where granite blocks were clearly transported, shaped, and even melted with precision that modern tools have difficulty in mimicking, and yet the people that built them have no evidence of having any form of writing and mathematics. Some accounts from people who worked with NASA and the Military tell of their reactions to unknown things that appeared where they shouldn't. Of craft that were avoiding projectiles fired at each other. Radio signals that have a strange structure in comparison to the surrounding sources. Flashing lights and movement on the surface of a desolate moon where there shouldn't be. Even pictures of things that look like actual structures, factories, and facilities of enormous scale on the far side of our very own moon. Tricks of the mind? Natural phenomena? Stories to gain attention? They very well could be. I won't be surprised if more than 90% of them are indeed fake.
But there's a LOT of stories still left over that we can't explain even now, and it's probably just as foolish to discredit all counts of having any outside influence as it is to believe that everything was because of the Aliens.
tl;dr: Ayy Lmao.
Considering the resources that this solar system has to offer, being of a rare child of a hypergiant supernova that is the only known natural source of any element heavier than Iron. Gold, lead, copper, thorium, plutonium and uranium exist in large quantities here, especially on the rocky and protected planet Earth (which has the internal tectonics to bring the heavy metals to the surface, and with a surface climate mild enough to not hinder mining) Other planets in the solar system have other compounds that could be potential fuel sources. Our moon is rich in Helium 3, an isotope that is supposedly a powerful fusion fuel.
And while we can't determine the spectrum of our life compared to the types that exist in the galaxy, we are technically a space-capable race. Armed with weapons able to destroy planets. Even if we aren't able to send one of our own past our planet's sphere of influence, the caliber of potential and the acceleration of our technological advancement would be something I would be keeping a VERY close eye on from the outside.
I can't even imagine the politics surrounding our planet if there was such attention. Alien races far more capable and on a different level of understanding, arguing over the fate of our race, whether to let it grow with the risks of our species' psychology, or to scrap the planet for it's resources. Many legends of ancient civilizations recall their deities, outside of all the space-man references demanding specific materials, such as gold and silver. Starting the tradition of offering our precious metals to our gods as a sacrifice. Gold and silver are some of the most valuable metals to science as well for their properties, as it is for their rarity.
You have several ancient and even more modern accounts of UFO's conflicting with each other, even fighting each other off. The Nuremburg "War" of 1561, where the sky was FILLED with all sorts of strange things over the span of weeks across all of Europe, even some of these objects falling to the ground in heaps of fire and metal. Or of some ancient ruins, especially in South America, where granite blocks were clearly transported, shaped, and even melted with precision that modern tools have difficulty in mimicking, and yet the people that built them have no evidence of having any form of writing and mathematics. Some accounts from people who worked with NASA and the Military tell of their reactions to unknown things that appeared where they shouldn't. Of craft that were avoiding projectiles fired at each other. Radio signals that have a strange structure in comparison to the surrounding sources. Flashing lights and movement on the surface of a desolate moon where there shouldn't be. Even pictures of things that look like actual structures, factories, and facilities of enormous scale on the far side of our very own moon. Tricks of the mind? Natural phenomena? Stories to gain attention? They very well could be. I won't be surprised if more than 90% of them are indeed fake.
But there's a LOT of stories still left over that we can't explain even now, and it's probably just as foolish to discredit all counts of having any outside influence as it is to believe that everything was because of the Aliens.
tl;dr: Ayy Lmao.
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tsoper (01/27/2015) [-] How high are you?
Aliens are not watching us and they're not even close to us. If they were, it would be more likely that they would make their presence known and try to colonize. You dont travel millions of light years away to fly around a rock.
That being said, I think you should consider laying off the alien conspiracy theories because the chances of that being true is pretty much zero.
Aliens are not watching us and they're not even close to us. If they were, it would be more likely that they would make their presence known and try to colonize. You dont travel millions of light years away to fly around a rock.
That being said, I think you should consider laying off the alien conspiracy theories because the chances of that being true is pretty much zero.
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popeflatus (01/27/2015) [-] We travel vast distances to land probes on comets, so an alien civilization far more capable than us might travel vast distances just to observe.
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anon (01/27/2015) [-]
You really can't know what aliens would want from us. If they found Earth and discovered us living here, they might have a mentality to absolutely destroy us, or they might have a mentality to study us in secret, or they just might be too afraid to interact in case the common cold jumps the species barrier and kills them all. Or our atmosphere could be completely uninhabitable for their species, and without knowing each other's languages, they find it just too difficult to interact with us.
Or they could be with us right now, typing this very comment
Or they could be with us right now, typing this very comment
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cherubium (01/27/2015) [-] I read but i just wanted to use this gif for once since i almost always read **** so i never get to use it "Or of some ancient ruins, especially in South America, where granite blocks were clearly transported, shaped, and even melted with precision that modern tools have difficulty in mimicking" if you got this tidbit from ancient aliens you should take it with a butt load of salt since they regularly withhold information and say no one can do it
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brisineo (01/27/2015) [-] While I read the thing on the South American ruins first on Ancient Aliens, it interested me enough to where I looked into it and it's one of the few legit strange things they featured. Granite's a freaking tough rock. Depending on the composition, it can have a higher melting point than iron at near 3000F, and has a mohs hardness scale of 7. Modern hardened steel is only slightly higher. It's also stupidly heavy.
Now try cutting this material into several ton blocks, drag them up a mountain without the use of wheels, and cut them so precisely that they're practically water tight. The ones in the Inca cities look almost like they were softened when they were set, because of how they bulge around the cracks like bubbles in foam.
Not saying it's completely legit, (like how I felt absolutely stupid when a guy single-handedly found out how they built stonehenge with just stacking wood and proper leverage, and is currently building a replica himself) but holy crap does it make you start thinking about things.
Now try cutting this material into several ton blocks, drag them up a mountain without the use of wheels, and cut them so precisely that they're practically water tight. The ones in the Inca cities look almost like they were softened when they were set, because of how they bulge around the cracks like bubbles in foam.
Not saying it's completely legit, (like how I felt absolutely stupid when a guy single-handedly found out how they built stonehenge with just stacking wood and proper leverage, and is currently building a replica himself) but holy crap does it make you start thinking about things.
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cherubium (01/28/2015) [-]
If you mean the temple that you coulden't even put a poker card between the rocks and all angles being 90 degrees exactly? ******** since even the ancient aliens guy shows a angle that isn't 90 degrees that temple wasn't built with granite and close by you can see how they built the temple with molds in rock for the bronze tools they used.
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kolya ONLINE (01/26/2015) [-] Yeah...actually people today cant figure out how casual technology works,like everyone uses computers,but ask someone to describe the parts of a hdd or ask everyday drivers about their car battery...if this keeps up in 20 years people will ask themselves if ww2 wasnt actually just a video game made by aliens
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bannor (01/26/2015) [-] I was talking to somebody about that once. When I was a kid I used to fantasize about going back in time and being the smartest person alive, showing them all these amazing things from the future.
Then I got older and realized that if I went back in time I wouldn't know how to do **** . Couldn't make electricity, couldn't build a car. I'd just start spouting nonsense about being able to talk to anybody on earth instantly from anywhere, and I'd be burned at the stake.
Then I got older and realized that if I went back in time I wouldn't know how to do **** . Couldn't make electricity, couldn't build a car. I'd just start spouting nonsense about being able to talk to anybody on earth instantly from anywhere, and I'd be burned at the stake.
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databutt (01/26/2015) [-]
I've has a similar thought, but if you dig deeper, you might find that you would have more power than you first realize. If you traveled back to the 1800s, alright, perhaps you wouldn't make a big dent, but, if you traveled back to say the 1100s, a solid knowledge of the maths would serve you very well. This is assuming you could handle the pathogens and assimilate into their culture.
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bannor (01/27/2015) [-] Would it though? I mean sure, I know some algebra and geometry, and anything else I remember from school. But math is useless without application.
I mean if I was an engineer, sure, but I'm a musician. Maybe if I got my hands on a guitar I could show them a bit of the future
I mean if I was an engineer, sure, but I'm a musician. Maybe if I got my hands on a guitar I could show them a bit of the future
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conspiracytheorist (01/27/2015) [-]
The notion of ancient aliens was fabricated to sell books. By aliens.
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thesecretbear (01/27/2015) [-] So you're telling me that the history channel's crack team of "Ancient Astronaut Theorists" are phonies?!!!!
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heartlessrobot (01/27/2015) [-] Well then aliens are some assholes, all they did was stack some rocks.
Imagine if you from the future came back to the past, set up three really big rocks on your front lawn, and left before you could grab the camera.
Imagine if you from the future came back to the past, set up three really big rocks on your front lawn, and left before you could grab the camera.
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captainprincess ONLINE (01/27/2015) [-] Oh for sure
I give the same argument to a god
If they're real, they've done what we think they've done
They some straight up douchelords
I give the same argument to a god
If they're real, they've done what we think they've done
They some straight up douchelords
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doctorprofessornv (01/27/2015) [-] From a purely objective standpoint, saying 'ancient aliens did not exist' is as unscientific as saying 'ancient aliens did exist'. In truth we don't know a great deal about our ancient history, and there are indeed many things that cannot be fully explained. Assuming an alien race had both the means and the desire to come to Earth, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that such a race might have interacted with ancient humans.
I cannot say whether aliens did or are presently involved in human affairs, or even if they do exist. What I can say is that sometimes making significant discoveries involves thinking outside the box. Sometimes we have to put our arrogance aside and realize our understanding of the universe is still quite small, and some things may be outside the scope of what we consider to be possible. If anything, approach all scientific inquiry with objectivity and an open mind, and realize that lack of proof does not necessarily equate to proof of nonexistence.
I cannot say whether aliens did or are presently involved in human affairs, or even if they do exist. What I can say is that sometimes making significant discoveries involves thinking outside the box. Sometimes we have to put our arrogance aside and realize our understanding of the universe is still quite small, and some things may be outside the scope of what we consider to be possible. If anything, approach all scientific inquiry with objectivity and an open mind, and realize that lack of proof does not necessarily equate to proof of nonexistence.
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iamthepapercut ONLINE (01/27/2015) [-] This has literally nothing at all against what neil datass thighstrong said. In fact, it's exactly in line with what he said
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starwarswasbetter (01/27/2015) [-] But still, you wonder how ancient civilizations moved tons of rock without even iron tools or other sophisticated pieces of technology.
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starwarswasbetter (01/27/2015) [-] Easter Island- heads
Egypt- pyramids
Ancient Pueblo- temples
Mesopotamia- Gardens of Baylon
China- Great Wall
Mound Builders- the mounds
Shall I go on?
Egypt- pyramids
Ancient Pueblo- temples
Mesopotamia- Gardens of Baylon
China- Great Wall
Mound Builders- the mounds
Shall I go on?
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xxmemosxx (01/27/2015) [-]
Transportation method is pretty well explained as it's what also caused an island, that should be covered in woodlands, to become almost completely devoid of trees. They used logs as rollers to slide the heads along the ground, deforesting an entire island in the process.
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playerdous (01/27/2015) [-] The great wall was a collection of previous walls connected at a later date.
It's not even a mystery. The method was simple "Beginning as separate sections of fortification around the 7th century B.C. and unified during the Qin Dynasty in the 3rd century B.C., this wall, built of earth and rubble with a facing of brick or stone, runs from east to west across China for over 4,000 miles."
While we don't know what some of the mounds were used for they aren't hard to create. www.examiner.com/article/why-and-how-did-native-americans-build-mounds
As for the pyramids....
I don't know much off the top of my head about the others, I know my sister researched Easter Island and nothing over the top mysterious was involved, but all we have are theories.
It's not even a mystery. The method was simple "Beginning as separate sections of fortification around the 7th century B.C. and unified during the Qin Dynasty in the 3rd century B.C., this wall, built of earth and rubble with a facing of brick or stone, runs from east to west across China for over 4,000 miles."
While we don't know what some of the mounds were used for they aren't hard to create. www.examiner.com/article/why-and-how-did-native-americans-build-mounds
As for the pyramids....
I don't know much off the top of my head about the others, I know my sister researched Easter Island and nothing over the top mysterious was involved, but all we have are theories.
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popeflatus (01/27/2015) [-] 
Many of these structures used variations of this guys technique probably.
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noblexfenrir (01/27/2015) [-] "You wonder how"
It's really not all that difficult...
Easter Island: There are multiple methods by which this could be done, the current prevailing theory is they were made with rounded bottoms and stomachs and 'tilted' and 'rolled' to their destination.
Egypt: Again, multiple methods. Current prevailing theories involve ramps and pulleys or building from the inside out.
Ancient pueblo temples: Roughly same idea as pyramids just with less complex placement once stones were in place.
Gardens of babylon: You act as if these people weren't used to building gigantic structures. Apply the methodology from the others to this, BAM you figured it out.
Great wall of china: Oh come on now, we literally have documentation saying how it was made. I think you should have changed "You wonder how" to "I wonder how" since most of these stem from your ignorance.
Mounds: I'm not understanding what is so difficult here that you wonder how it was possible.
Our handtools are advanced in construction and handling, that doesn't mean they didn't have access to roughly the same type of effect these tools bring us. They had the means, they had the manpower, and looking over engineering ability from similiar periods they definitely had the ingenuity.
It's really not all that difficult...
Easter Island: There are multiple methods by which this could be done, the current prevailing theory is they were made with rounded bottoms and stomachs and 'tilted' and 'rolled' to their destination.
Egypt: Again, multiple methods. Current prevailing theories involve ramps and pulleys or building from the inside out.
Ancient pueblo temples: Roughly same idea as pyramids just with less complex placement once stones were in place.
Gardens of babylon: You act as if these people weren't used to building gigantic structures. Apply the methodology from the others to this, BAM you figured it out.
Great wall of china: Oh come on now, we literally have documentation saying how it was made. I think you should have changed "You wonder how" to "I wonder how" since most of these stem from your ignorance.
Mounds: I'm not understanding what is so difficult here that you wonder how it was possible.
Our handtools are advanced in construction and handling, that doesn't mean they didn't have access to roughly the same type of effect these tools bring us. They had the means, they had the manpower, and looking over engineering ability from similiar periods they definitely had the ingenuity.
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starwarswasbetter (01/27/2015) [-] Yes, but all of those theories have flaws.
Do you really think that one can tilt and roll 10 to 92 ton statues up hills, knowing that if they fell over even once it would be nearly impossible to get back up again, meaning that every time they took a break, they had to stabilize an inherently unbalanced item?
Do you really think that slaves could push those insanely heavy solid stone blocks using just a ramp?
Do you really think that transporting the, again, 10 ton stones from the quarry 50 miles away was easy to even getting the materials there in the first place?
Do you really think that the water transporting system, dirt beds, and stairs were easy to put on the 5 story tall building?
Do you really think that the sheer volume of stone accumulated, carved, raised so high up in the air that they can defend against invasions, could be done without sophisticated tools?
Do you really think that the even more primitive tools these people had could move over 5 tons of dirt without wheelbarrows, buckets, or iron tools?
All of these have large gaps in their reasoning, and that is why I wonder.
And also, you can try to make a point without being r00d about it.
Do you really think that one can tilt and roll 10 to 92 ton statues up hills, knowing that if they fell over even once it would be nearly impossible to get back up again, meaning that every time they took a break, they had to stabilize an inherently unbalanced item?
Do you really think that slaves could push those insanely heavy solid stone blocks using just a ramp?
Do you really think that transporting the, again, 10 ton stones from the quarry 50 miles away was easy to even getting the materials there in the first place?
Do you really think that the water transporting system, dirt beds, and stairs were easy to put on the 5 story tall building?
Do you really think that the sheer volume of stone accumulated, carved, raised so high up in the air that they can defend against invasions, could be done without sophisticated tools?
Do you really think that the even more primitive tools these people had could move over 5 tons of dirt without wheelbarrows, buckets, or iron tools?
All of these have large gaps in their reasoning, and that is why I wonder.
And also, you can try to make a point without being r00d about it.
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playerdous (01/27/2015) [-] There are plenty of broken and abandoned Easter Island heads. They did break from time to time, but the learning curve dictates that people get better at task they repeat.
Yes, humans can do a lot of amazing things, it isn't at all surprising.
Transporting materials long distances have been well documented in other cases like the Parthenon.
I assume the 5 story building is the babylon thing, which I never studied.
What qualifies as sophisticated to you? I mean you can do some amazing things with just rope.
Mounds are literally packed clay, the laziest of constructs.
Idk if I'm being rude.
Yes, humans can do a lot of amazing things, it isn't at all surprising.
Transporting materials long distances have been well documented in other cases like the Parthenon.
I assume the 5 story building is the babylon thing, which I never studied.
What qualifies as sophisticated to you? I mean you can do some amazing things with just rope.
Mounds are literally packed clay, the laziest of constructs.
Idk if I'm being rude.
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cherubium (01/27/2015) [-]
Moai statues were amazing and they were probably transported on logs and the Moai stopped being built around the same time the last trees were cut down.
Actually extremely heavy rocks can be pulled on a sled in sand from quarry sites to the pyramids and the Egyptians used a pulley system together with oil to pull the heavies granite rocks up ramps. this pulley and oil system was used inside one pyramid atleast to bring in the giant bearing granite blocks
My knowledge on Gardens of babylon is lacking.
Great wall of china? bricks! bricks! bricks and more bricks various other methods were used to build older parts of the great wall but the latest editions and rebuilding was done with bricks
mounds? shovels.
Actually extremely heavy rocks can be pulled on a sled in sand from quarry sites to the pyramids and the Egyptians used a pulley system together with oil to pull the heavies granite rocks up ramps. this pulley and oil system was used inside one pyramid atleast to bring in the giant bearing granite blocks
My knowledge on Gardens of babylon is lacking.
Great wall of china? bricks! bricks! bricks and more bricks various other methods were used to build older parts of the great wall but the latest editions and rebuilding was done with bricks
mounds? shovels.
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cherubium (01/27/2015) [-]
And if you think china didn't have the man power to build the great wall let me remind you that China flourished and when they battled they used armies numbering in the 100 000s meanwhile european battles of lets say the roman empire as an example only used armies of below 100 000.
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xxmemosxx (01/27/2015) [-]
Firstly, noble was the ignorant one. Many of his "prevalent theories" are theories that were written off long ago.
"Do you really think that slaves could push those insanely heavy solid stone blocks using just a ramp?"
1. They weren't slaves. 2. Yes. When the work is shared between hundreds of people and you use certain methods to improve efficiency ie. wetting the sand in front of the stone massively reduces the friction and stops the stone from digging into the sand, the work becomes much, much easier.
Next point, again, shared work load and time.
There is no evidence that the hanging gardens ever existed (The Babylonian hanging gardens are most likely confused with an Assyrian city irrigation system)
"Do you really think that the even more primitive tools these people had could move over 5 tons of dirt without wheelbarrows, buckets, or iron tools? "
Yes... what makes you think moving dirt is so hard? Also the mound builders where around up until the 1700's... hardly ancient & primitive.
"Do you really think that slaves could push those insanely heavy solid stone blocks using just a ramp?"
1. They weren't slaves. 2. Yes. When the work is shared between hundreds of people and you use certain methods to improve efficiency ie. wetting the sand in front of the stone massively reduces the friction and stops the stone from digging into the sand, the work becomes much, much easier.
Next point, again, shared work load and time.
There is no evidence that the hanging gardens ever existed (The Babylonian hanging gardens are most likely confused with an Assyrian city irrigation system)
"Do you really think that the even more primitive tools these people had could move over 5 tons of dirt without wheelbarrows, buckets, or iron tools? "
Yes... what makes you think moving dirt is so hard? Also the mound builders where around up until the 1700's... hardly ancient & primitive.
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starwarswasbetter (01/27/2015) [-] We are talking about 10-ton, minimum, rocks here. Wooden wheels can't handle that, common rock tools would take years to carve them, mining them would be hell, the man power you would have to divert from farming to working in it would just be staggering, and in some cases (like China and the pyramids) they have to be lifted up to 300 feet in the air without the use of pulleys or iron. Does that sound easy to you?
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cherubium (01/27/2015) [-]
yeah I feel like an asshole now, my dad thinks aliens did everything basicly and he refuses to believe otherwise even when i give him the means they did it by so i have this intense urge to fight anyone thinking that way and i guess i got a bit clouded when reading the comments.
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leonhardt (01/27/2015) [-] And just because you have a pretty good idea doesn't mean that aliens weren't there.
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popeflatus (01/27/2015) [-] You could say that just because there's no evidence for magic pixies it doesn't mean that they weren't there either.
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ichnos (01/27/2015) [-] "Jesus, what are you doing?"
"Oh, don't mind me, just abducting people with my huge spaceship army."
"Oh, don't mind me, just abducting people with my huge spaceship army."
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diespitris (01/27/2015) [-]
I like the idea that aliens exist.
Makes the world seem a bit more interesting to me.
I like the idea that aliens exist.
Makes the world seem a bit more interesting to me.
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theycallmesatan (01/27/2015) [-] **theycallmesatan used "*roll picture*"**
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