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#3 - xxxsonic fanxxx (12/11/2013) [-]
You are now aware that Nelson Mandela was a terrorist, never once condemned his use of violence or bombs on innocent people, one of his wives enjoyed torturing people, and he drove South Africa into such a depression that lots of both blacks and whites think the country was much better under apartheid rule
User avatar #13 to #3 - teoferrazzi (12/11/2013) [-]
look at how edgy you're being
south africa was in a recession under mandela because the country was loaned money under prohibitive conditions by american investors. if they hadn't taken the money they would have collapsed, so the country accepted the money under the condition that the entire economy was in the hands of corporations, getting the country into a recession.
tl;dr it's not mandela's ******* fault.

go be edgy somewhere else.
#71 to #13 - xxxsonic fanxxx (12/11/2013) [-]
South African here. I and my family moved away for this reason alone

www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7HyuLPWF9I

you really want to understand the truth about this man, you'll take the time to listen to this. All of the sources are backed up, just follow the link in the description if you want to learn more.


#29 to #13 - xxxsonic fanxxx (12/11/2013) [-]
He is not being edgy. It's part of history. But, I guess people don't like to learn the bad side of it.
User avatar #33 to #29 - teoferrazzi (12/11/2013) [-]
if you read my comment at all, you'd know I debunked the comment using actual knowledge, instead of factoids regurgitated from conservative websites.
#82 to #33 - xxxsonic fanxxx (12/11/2013) [-]
****** I live in South Africa. I know what he did. There is no denying that Mandela bombed, kidnapped and killed a lot of people.
User avatar #7 to #3 - willindor ONLINE (12/11/2013) [-]
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
#73 to #7 - xxxsonic fanxxx (12/11/2013) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7HyuLPWF9I

Tell me how the bombing of soft, non military, non government targets, killing innocent men and women, is fighting for freedom.
User avatar #87 to #73 - willindor ONLINE (12/11/2013) [-]
I was only saying that good and evil are relative. I'm not attacking or defending Mandela's actions and I do not care about your views on him.
User avatar #5 to #3 - hudis (12/11/2013) [-]
Lesson learned: There's no such thing as purely good or purely bad people. There are no good guys. There are no bad guys. Fairly simple.
#53 to #5 - smithforprez (12/11/2013) [-]
you like genocide, don't you hudis?
User avatar #55 to #53 - hudis (12/11/2013) [-]
Yes, but only in strategy games!

("Hitler loved dogs" is a pretty common saying. He is responsible for a number of animal rights laws that still exist in European countries. He also loved children, as far as I know, and never wished to be part of the concentration camp procedure. Not defending him or anything, just saying that even the worst of the worst can have moments of good!)
User avatar #56 to #55 - smithforprez (12/11/2013) [-]
strategy games are great, pretending to be the evilest bastard who ever lived is funny. and not having piles of actual corpses to feel guilty about is a plus too.
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