Be Nice To Others
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Indoknight ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-] When someone greets you and you're mean to them unnecessarily, you deserve a smack at that point.
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lathyrusvii (12/14/2015) [-] Quick to anger. You're still describing someone to be feared rather than respected.
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lathyrusvii (12/14/2015) [-] Okay. Quick to violence. Same thing; you are giving a description of someone to be feared, rather than respected.
A blow to the pride doesn't deserve a smack, unless you have a fragile ego. My observation isn't budged.
A blow to the pride doesn't deserve a smack, unless you have a fragile ego. My observation isn't budged.
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Indoknight ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-] It's not a blow to the pride though. It's about treating others with respect and getting punished if you don't.
Your kid acts like a little ******** , you discipline them so they don't act like this to strangers. If they do, strangers might discipline them instead, which is what happened in this case.
Talk **** , get hit.
This is a very simple, rudimentary concept. Nothing to do with fear/violence/anger.
read the title faggot, it says exactly what im saying
Your kid acts like a little ******** , you discipline them so they don't act like this to strangers. If they do, strangers might discipline them instead, which is what happened in this case.
Talk **** , get hit.
This is a very simple, rudimentary concept. Nothing to do with fear/violence/anger.
read the title faggot, it says exactly what im saying
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lathyrusvii (12/14/2015) [-] I'm saying that your concept of respect is rudimentary and simple, and has everything to do with violence, fear, and anger.
Discipline against others for speaking offensive or dismissive things is exactly what the **** SJW, feminists, and ISIS are doing. They're punishing the world indiscriminately because they aren't 'respected.'
I know exactly what the title says, and what you're saying. "Her lack of respect in address in return to his greeting was grounds for her to be physically punished so that she might learn to not do it again."
I'm saying that anyone who takes up that argument you're championing perpetuates an unending cycle of useless violence.
Either way, I've given my argument. And I've even summed up your argument to demonstrate that I comprehend your perspective.
But if you don't have enough respect to attempt understanding of a contrary viewpoint, this'll be where I wave you off.
Discipline against others for speaking offensive or dismissive things is exactly what the **** SJW, feminists, and ISIS are doing. They're punishing the world indiscriminately because they aren't 'respected.'
I know exactly what the title says, and what you're saying. "Her lack of respect in address in return to his greeting was grounds for her to be physically punished so that she might learn to not do it again."
I'm saying that anyone who takes up that argument you're championing perpetuates an unending cycle of useless violence.
Either way, I've given my argument. And I've even summed up your argument to demonstrate that I comprehend your perspective.
But if you don't have enough respect to attempt understanding of a contrary viewpoint, this'll be where I wave you off.
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Indoknight ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-] I'm not here to argue if it's right or wrong.
I'm simply saying this is what happens when you're not nice to people and you disrespect them. So just be careful and treat everyone with respect.
I'm simply saying this is what happens when you're not nice to people and you disrespect them. So just be careful and treat everyone with respect.
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lathyrusvii (12/14/2015) [-] 'This is what happens.'
Volatile people popping loose and overreacting to a casual ' **** you' from some passer-bys.
Civil discourse is best, but violent recourse is apeish.
Volatile people popping loose and overreacting to a casual ' **** you' from some passer-bys.
Civil discourse is best, but violent recourse is apeish.
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shadowedge (12/14/2015) [-] The flaw in your logic is that you seem to be under the impression that somebody cannot be feared and respected.
Where I agree that this example was a bit extreme, it could be said that this event would teach her to respect other people, and not specifically the boy who threw the basket ball.
Where I agree that this example was a bit extreme, it could be said that this event would teach her to respect other people, and not specifically the boy who threw the basket ball.
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lathyrusvii (12/15/2015) [-] A lot of implications can be made, but they would be retroactive.
My statement is that the boy acted out of volatility rather than an effort to teach respect.
The flaw in your logic is to apply theoretical argument to justify a wanton act of violence with no argument but social acceptance on your side.
The video doesn't show a clear learning process. All I see is a kid thoughtlessly flinging a basketball in retribution because a girl said ' **** you.'
To determine that a singular disrespectful remark should escalate into violence is a clear sign of a fragile ego.
It's a low threshold to instigate violence.
Aside. Respect and fear may be paid to the same person, but respect derived from fear is... disgusting.
My statement is that the boy acted out of volatility rather than an effort to teach respect.
The flaw in your logic is to apply theoretical argument to justify a wanton act of violence with no argument but social acceptance on your side.
The video doesn't show a clear learning process. All I see is a kid thoughtlessly flinging a basketball in retribution because a girl said ' **** you.'
To determine that a singular disrespectful remark should escalate into violence is a clear sign of a fragile ego.
It's a low threshold to instigate violence.
Aside. Respect and fear may be paid to the same person, but respect derived from fear is... disgusting.
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shadowedge (12/15/2015) [-] Frankly, I wasn't trying to refute the fact that the boys reaction was callous and absurd.
What I was doing, however, was making an attempt to point out the flaw in your initial argument.
Look at me as if I were a neutral party.
I'm observing and making comments as I please.
Please do not lecture me needlessly.
What I was doing, however, was making an attempt to point out the flaw in your initial argument.
Look at me as if I were a neutral party.
I'm observing and making comments as I please.
Please do not lecture me needlessly.
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lathyrusvii (12/15/2015) [-] Sorry. I'm not trying to strongarm people recklessly, but this has been an uphill conversation from the inception.
I was working from the premise that fear and respect were dichotomous, certainly, but there is enough room in the definitions for them to coexist, as you say.
I do reiterate my last point; respect born of fear is, from my perspective, disgusting.
It's difficult to convey an entire ideological standpoint at once here, so I work form the basics and build up.
Sooo... that's about it. Thanks for the opportunity to expound a bit, I think, but this topic is brittle as frozen sugar glass in the South Pole.
I was working from the premise that fear and respect were dichotomous, certainly, but there is enough room in the definitions for them to coexist, as you say.
I do reiterate my last point; respect born of fear is, from my perspective, disgusting.
It's difficult to convey an entire ideological standpoint at once here, so I work form the basics and build up.
Sooo... that's about it. Thanks for the opportunity to expound a bit, I think, but this topic is brittle as frozen sugar glass in the South Pole.
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shadowedge (12/15/2015) [-] I might suggest, if you don't believe me to be overstepping boundaries set in place by my having requested you not lecture me, that you refrain from using two-dimensional statements when displaying an opinion that is contrary to the intended message of a popular post.
inb4 fragmented, long-ass sentence
inb4 fragmented, long-ass sentence
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lathyrusvii (12/15/2015) [-] But if I'm not basical enough, I'll get my Basic Bitch license revoked.
I don't really mind the thumbs. Not every 'line' cast is going to have good results, but I'll probably apply what you say to an argument in which I am more vested, in the future.
Something, something... lexicon... parlance... goddamn, I do sound bombastic.
Thanks, though, for the input. :3
I don't really mind the thumbs. Not every 'line' cast is going to have good results, but I'll probably apply what you say to an argument in which I am more vested, in the future.
Something, something... lexicon... parlance... goddamn, I do sound bombastic.
Thanks, though, for the input. :3
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lathyrusvii (12/14/2015) [-] To clarify, even in the event of a fragile ego, a person doesn't deserve a smack.
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autumnanubis (12/14/2015) [-] It's not about having a fragile ego you poor, challenged, and ignorant human. Violence isn't met with open arms and a warm smile.
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autumnanubis (12/14/2015) [-] **autumnanubis used "*roll picture*"**
**autumnanubis rolled image***roll picture*Might as well dick it. Autistic people being autistic.
**autumnanubis rolled image***roll picture*Might as well dick it. Autistic people being autistic.
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lathyrusvii (12/14/2015) [-] That's not specific enough. Do you know which side of the debate I was on, up there?
What's your perspective? I'm not about to go Mentok the Mind Taker and make one up for you, so clarify or get bent.
What's your perspective? I'm not about to go Mentok the Mind Taker and make one up for you, so clarify or get bent.
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deadlyfoez (12/14/2015) [-] I agree. Why all the red thumbs?
It is the parents responsibility to teach someone how to respect others. It is not the job of a child whom was offended to teach respect.
In other words, that little bitches parents didn't teach her to show respect to other people, so the kid should have thrown the ball at the parents instead.
It is the parents responsibility to teach someone how to respect others. It is not the job of a child whom was offended to teach respect.
In other words, that little bitches parents didn't teach her to show respect to other people, so the kid should have thrown the ball at the parents instead.
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lathyrusvii (12/14/2015) [-] I get red thumbs because people don't read well enough, I suppose. Or because violence is funny.
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deadlyfoez (12/14/2015) [-] Well, it is indeed funny. I got a chuckle out of it. It was still a wrong reaction.
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lathyrusvii (12/14/2015) [-] Something like that, and what you said before. Especially ' it is not the job of a child whom was offended...'
Sounds pretty much like a few other groups I know about.
Sounds pretty much like a few other groups I know about.
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installation ONLINE (12/14/2015) [-]
I know I'll drown in reds for this, but this kid was acting like a cunt. So what if he got offended because someone told him " **** you." In real life, a lot of people are going to say " **** you." This doesn't give you the right to hurt others. Free speech is a right, freedom to criticize said free speech is also a right. But physically hurting someone for something they said? That's going too far.
