The actual location of cities in DC is never a sure thing. The only constant appears to be what coast they are on.

Yup. The movie versions of the two cities may be sister cities, but in all other media they are far, far apart
<- city map of Gotham

Different authors write different stuff. They have explained this by having "different dimensions" where the world that author 1 wrote with Gotham and Metropolis being far apart could be something like "Earth 1" and the world where Gotham and Metropolis are closer together could be something like "Earth 52." Not sure if correct but just an example.

yeah thats how it works. unless the magazine/movie is a direct continuation of something . its safe to assume its a new universe.

Some say they were both based on new york. Not a whole lot of info on it since it changes all the time.

But based on hour locations from Smallville to Metropolis that they have mentioned, it's more likely that Metropolis would be located comparably to Chicago. And Gotham is clearly based on New York City.

Personally I always thought it was Chicago and New York. It's the only two cities that make sense for the time period the comics originated imo.

In the map on one of the movies. Star City is in New England near Rhode Island I believe, and Central City is pretty much just Kansas City.

Gotham is New York below 14th Street, from SoHo to Greenwich Village, the Bowery, Little Italy, Chinatown, and the sinister areas around the base of the Manhattan and Brooklyn Bridges.

older comics actually put gotham near new jersey or something while metropolis is just north of texas...then again older comics were weird.

Older comics are weird indeed. That's why we love them.

new comics arent bad neither...i think post crisis dc comics was the best.

It is indeed very hard to beat mullet superman.

mullet man was cool.

same with electro superman.


but hey, atleast they didnt make batman and superman into literal gods...

A unique time of before and after plot armor and over powered.

pc also saw the best comics...

all star superman, what happened to the man of tomorrow(technically came out during silver age) killing joke, specter comics(the 90s series was balls out awesome...well the earlier ones were..late 90s were weird) doomsday. and so on

kind of a wide range of years it could be.

what years do you consider post crisis to be.

post crisis continuum started when silver age ended..which was generally around final crisis? i think?? and it ended with flashpoint which started the disasterous n52. which ended in convergence which started the convergence continuum.

Is convergence any good? I started reading it, but at some point very early, got bored by it and dropped it. Felt too much like a forced copy of Secret Wars Which I loved for most parts) and the issues of pretty much every series during it where ...dunno, just meh. Did it get better as it went on? Is it immensely important to read it if I want to keep reading the new series?

Oh right. Convergence exists. I should probably read that at some point.

Agreed pc is best. Identity Crisis is probably the best comic I have ever read. Which falls under that era.

isnt that the one with the infamous deathstroke vs jl?

Indeed it is.

ah yes. then i remember that...not really my favourite arc...but i can see the lure it has.

mine would most likely be all star superman. it contains the greatest heartwarming moment ever put to paper..only rivalled by grants ending to year one supes in n52.

I really liked grant until I heard him talk. Now I can only see him as a deranged nutjob. Identity Crisis was a one off, but **** the character development was off the charts. It was like reading an actual book and was so much more satisfying than any comic I have ever read. Completely forgot that deathstroke fight happened tbh. I haven't read a lot of new 52. Everything I like they change or stop making. Supergirl has probably been my most read comic series in n52. Really like what they did with her. It's like the opposite of the tv show in every way.

grant is cloud cuckoolander to the max. but he is also one of the greatest comic book artists ever to grace earth. and i didnt like identity crisis because of the character derailment..flash ga and hal would never under normal circumstances allow any of the other heroes to get away with brainwashing... and ofcourse then there was that deathstroke fight which still makes me chuckle at how stupid it was...


also did they start making a new supergirl series? because the one i read was rather stupid as it tried to imply supergirl is "stronger than superman and FASTER THAN FLASH"

Grant also created damien which is pretty unforgivable imo.

would think you would love damien considering he has some of the best character development a person has ever had in dc comics for a long time.

I don't know about that. Glad he's dead though. Rha's and all his **** storylines pretty significantly hurt the batman franchise imo. Damian being one of the worst. I don't remember too much character development. He was pretty much as one dimensional as can be.

if you want one dimensional then look at the other robins. all of them were pretty much just copies of nightwing.


meanwhile damian went from a snot nozed brat into more and more of a robin,. his journey to a hero was a good one. and idk why you think ras storylines are bad..but i guess thats a matter of opinion?

I loved it for that very reason. That was the whole point. It showed them being human and abusing their powers and reasoning for the greater good. Taking the most difficult path possible.

I dunno, I know the justice league assaulted her and Hel at one point (in the fortress of solitude) and they were defeated by them. She virtually has nothing to do with Earth for most of it. She became a Red Lantern for a little bit. Actually died too to escape it.

yeah but the heroes they tried to sell as being pragmatic were already established as people who would not take that path. it went againts several decades worth of character development to have them act that way.


and that does sound kinda silly...was that the normal jl mash up? because even if she teamed up with superman she should not be able to defeat the entire jl...

guess so yeah.

I think Flash was the only one to break through to the room. The rest of the JL were fighting the fully armed Fortress, and others were doing damage control. Supes was trying to prevent all the creatues from dieing and getting loose. Batman was trying to break in... Wonder Woman... I was doing other damage control but I think... may have fought Supergirl briefly.

GL wasn't there I think.

It's fluid. Films have to take creative license and ri-jig a lot of details. Then again a lot of time so do the comics.

It's very few people who demand that the details be locked in stone for eternity, and demand pure continuity over refreshed stories and details

yeah i actually read that in the dc universe, gotham is based off of New jersey and metropolis was based off of new york

They're both Manhattan

its for the movie