based arab man tells the truth
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eskaywalker (11/24/2015) [-] 
Not everything is a mess but I do have to say we have massive corruption problems and a royal crown family that serves no purpose.
Some of the reasons the working provinces want independence.
Some of the reasons the working provinces want independence.
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oxidoferroso (11/24/2015) [-] Daily reminder we were once called 'The Empire on which the sun never sets'
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yunch (11/24/2015) [-] Wow. Respect to this Sheikh. I was just saying this to an Arab friend of mine today as we're both studying in the UK.
Gulf countries have been so blessed with excess oil, stabilising the economy immensely that we have fallen lazy and complacent in our work! It's a factor that we Arabs should be self aware of to really improve as a people.
Growing up there, my schooling was bad, my work ethics is bad, and man is my sense of timing horrible. We can barely stand in a queue without feeling tempted to take a short cut . Don't get me wrong, there are honest and hard working people out there, my father including he's a devote workaholic , but because government officials and their application of law is lazy, this effects morale and ethics of the society greatly. Due to laws being somewhat unfair and irrational at times in some states, the local people come up with their own shortcuts. That's why you tend to see some refugees do unreasonable things... They honestly don't know any better and find it hard to adapt Syria was one of the worst in government corruption .
This complacency is not an Islamic trait, as the Sheikh said. Currently, it is an Arab trait. One that wasn't always prevalent.
MFW I get educated in work ethics.
Gulf countries have been so blessed with excess oil, stabilising the economy immensely that we have fallen lazy and complacent in our work! It's a factor that we Arabs should be self aware of to really improve as a people.
Growing up there, my schooling was bad, my work ethics is bad, and man is my sense of timing horrible. We can barely stand in a queue without feeling tempted to take a short cut . Don't get me wrong, there are honest and hard working people out there, my father including he's a devote workaholic , but because government officials and their application of law is lazy, this effects morale and ethics of the society greatly. Due to laws being somewhat unfair and irrational at times in some states, the local people come up with their own shortcuts. That's why you tend to see some refugees do unreasonable things... They honestly don't know any better and find it hard to adapt Syria was one of the worst in government corruption .
This complacency is not an Islamic trait, as the Sheikh said. Currently, it is an Arab trait. One that wasn't always prevalent.
MFW I get educated in work ethics.
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greyhoundfd (11/24/2015) [-] Question: How would you generally rate the Arabic and Farsi classes at universities, and would you recommend taking them?
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anon (11/25/2015) [-]
Dunno where you worked at dude
I'm currently working in a local engineering and dev company, we only have to do 45 hours a week, yet, when there is a lot of work, everyone EASILY do 60+ hours without any overtime pay.
dunno why people keep comparing us to other countries. i think we have it good.
i mean, i play a lot of online games, most of my friends are from EU
when i compare my self to them...it makes me so glad to be here,
i went to a top engineering school, i got payed to attend to university like if it was a job, i know a guy who left his uni becuase he coudlnt afford the fee's...after 2 years in, from finland.
2 of my family members are being treated for diabetes whch is covered compeletly by the goverment... a guildie from the UK told me how much his insoline shots cost...and how tough his family has it...
the goverment pays 50% of your sallary to the company you work at if you were a fresh grad, this encourses people to hire you. i see a lot of people online complaining about work experince for an entry level job...
dunno what people except when they compare us..even if we had ******* concentrated dark matter fields in excess quantitys we cant ******* establish everything overnight, our countries are not even half as old as westren ones.
Stop being so negative, it is defeatists such as yourself who is ruining everything
I'm currently working in a local engineering and dev company, we only have to do 45 hours a week, yet, when there is a lot of work, everyone EASILY do 60+ hours without any overtime pay.
dunno why people keep comparing us to other countries. i think we have it good.
i mean, i play a lot of online games, most of my friends are from EU
when i compare my self to them...it makes me so glad to be here,
i went to a top engineering school, i got payed to attend to university like if it was a job, i know a guy who left his uni becuase he coudlnt afford the fee's...after 2 years in, from finland.
2 of my family members are being treated for diabetes whch is covered compeletly by the goverment... a guildie from the UK told me how much his insoline shots cost...and how tough his family has it...
the goverment pays 50% of your sallary to the company you work at if you were a fresh grad, this encourses people to hire you. i see a lot of people online complaining about work experince for an entry level job...
dunno what people except when they compare us..even if we had ******* concentrated dark matter fields in excess quantitys we cant ******* establish everything overnight, our countries are not even half as old as westren ones.
Stop being so negative, it is defeatists such as yourself who is ruining everything
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needsauceadmisblan (11/24/2015) [-] are you really from the middle east? not that i doubt you its just that, its not common for middle eastern people to be on primarily English websites. (of course im american so interacting with someone from the middle east is not usually anyways, India yea tons recently)
if so why are you on this site?
and finally as im sorta interviewing you if you reply what does Islam say about brain damaged kids from birth you know the lame and meek.
if so why are you on this site?
and finally as im sorta interviewing you if you reply what does Islam say about brain damaged kids from birth you know the lame and meek.
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yunch (11/24/2015) [-] Born and bred there, yeah. I have mixed blood, so I indulge in both sides of the family spectrum.
>i don't doubt it i'm just questioning his exact tastes in humor seems a bit self harming
It's considerate of you that you thought of that. I think we can all agree that FJ is self harming to all of us in some way, directly or indirectly.
Personally, I don't indulge in ignorant posts anymore when majority of FJ goes on a tangent. Their entitled to their opinion, but it doesn't mean they're right about most things by quoting wikipedia sources.
>i don't doubt it i'm just questioning his exact tastes in humor seems a bit self harming
It's considerate of you that you thought of that. I think we can all agree that FJ is self harming to all of us in some way, directly or indirectly.
Personally, I don't indulge in ignorant posts anymore when majority of FJ goes on a tangent. Their entitled to their opinion, but it doesn't mean they're right about most things by quoting wikipedia sources.
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crazylance (11/24/2015) [-] I'm also from the Middle East, not Arabic mind you, but still from the Middle East.
It shouldn't really matter where you're from when you're on the internet.
Maybe yunch is here just to chill in his off time.
It shouldn't really matter where you're from when you're on the internet.
Maybe yunch is here just to chill in his off time.
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needsauceadmisblan (11/24/2015) [-] i know it doesn't matter where your from. Where your from does answer the question of what language you speak primarily, most of the time.
i don't doubt it i'm just questioning his exact tastes in humor seems a bit self harming its the best i can think of right now. of course everyone whos here can mostly take a joke so im sure hes gotten past the Islam jokes by now. as have you, no?
or are you the one jew that is watching us from Isreal?
i don't doubt it i'm just questioning his exact tastes in humor seems a bit self harming its the best i can think of right now. of course everyone whos here can mostly take a joke so im sure hes gotten past the Islam jokes by now. as have you, no?
or are you the one jew that is watching us from Isreal?
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crazylance (11/24/2015) [-] >the one jew that is watching us from Isreal It's written Israel, btw
I am sure there are more than just one jew on this website.
And also, being a Jew means conforming to the Jewish religion. I do not conform to their religion. I am a Russian, who just so happens to live in the Middle East.
And before you ask, yes, I know three different languages.
I am sure there are more than just one jew on this website.
And also, being a Jew means conforming to the Jewish religion. I do not conform to their religion. I am a Russian, who just so happens to live in the Middle East.
And before you ask, yes, I know three different languages.
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needsauceadmisblan (11/24/2015) [-] yea it was a pretty bad joke.
from what you've told me the crazy in your name is well deserved.
from what you've told me the crazy in your name is well deserved.
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needsauceadmisblan (11/24/2015) [-] i was useing the logic of "i dont want to go some where not litterly just for a bit and just for fun that doesn't speak my langue or really understand my values."
>implying i was purposefully implying
>implying i was purposefully implying
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rejakted (11/24/2015) [-] >what does Islam say about brain damaged kids from birth you know the lame and meek.
Pakistani here.
Nothing, really. The Quran and the Hadith go in-depth concerning many things but they don't say anything specific about mentally retarded children. Just that in case you do have a brain damaged kid then make sure not to treat him/her like **** and burden him/her with religious stuff.
If you get informed about the damage beforehand, then abortion is an option as long as it's not too late (can't remember exactly until when abortion is allowed). Though, most Muslims are dumbasses and shun the concept of abortion as going against God's will that living organisms should think of family planning.
Pakistani here.
Nothing, really. The Quran and the Hadith go in-depth concerning many things but they don't say anything specific about mentally retarded children. Just that in case you do have a brain damaged kid then make sure not to treat him/her like **** and burden him/her with religious stuff.
If you get informed about the damage beforehand, then abortion is an option as long as it's not too late (can't remember exactly until when abortion is allowed). Though, most Muslims are dumbasses and shun the concept of abortion as going against God's will that living organisms should think of family planning.
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anon (11/24/2015) [-]
I'm a Muslim and as far as I have learned those who are mentally challenged and are not able to make their own sound decisions are pure and harmless. They, ideally, should be assisted. Some scholars say their experiences and troubles in this world will lead them to direct heaven, others say upon the day of judgment, with the truth in front of them, they will be asked if they believe and of course they will say yes, it's in front of them but they must be given choice, and they will enter heaven. If you are talking physically injured from birth then it is taken as just one of the many trials of life but if you are still mentally capable of making your own decisions then you will be responsible for your choices in this life. Hope that helped?
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richardastley ONLINE (11/24/2015) [-] I'm just going to share this story because it's related, not because I think it's true of all Muslims or anything like that. It's morbid as **** .
One of my former classmates said his mom is a clinical psychologist who does a lot of work with immigrants and refugees (I live in Canada). A few years ago (he didn't specify how many, and he said this back in 2012) she provided counselling for a family from Afghanistan. The father of the family, who did not come to Canada, tried to force their son, who lives with down syndrome, into a suicide bombing mission. I guess he became a member of the Taliban after they got married, and this was the tipping point of her disapproval, so they ran away and were lucky enough to make it to a developed country that would provide them support.
One of my former classmates said his mom is a clinical psychologist who does a lot of work with immigrants and refugees (I live in Canada). A few years ago (he didn't specify how many, and he said this back in 2012) she provided counselling for a family from Afghanistan. The father of the family, who did not come to Canada, tried to force their son, who lives with down syndrome, into a suicide bombing mission. I guess he became a member of the Taliban after they got married, and this was the tipping point of her disapproval, so they ran away and were lucky enough to make it to a developed country that would provide them support.
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yunch (11/24/2015) [-] It's not in the Quran, but I believe it's in Hadith archived records of the lifestyle and teachings of Prophet Muhammad .
One main reason why we don't visually depict him is because it'll lead to confusion people worshiping him instead of God or making judgments of him by his appearance, etc, thereby distracting people from what his message was and destroying the whole belief that Islam was based on.
We're not to visually depict any other prophets like Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus etc...or angels or God.
One main reason why we don't visually depict him is because it'll lead to confusion people worshiping him instead of God or making judgments of him by his appearance, etc, thereby distracting people from what his message was and destroying the whole belief that Islam was based on.
We're not to visually depict any other prophets like Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus etc...or angels or God.
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anon (11/25/2015) [-]
funny thing is people shouldn't draw pictures of him to prevent people worshiping him and worship god instead
people end up worshiping him so hard they'd kill anyone drawing pictures of him
and that not having a picture/statue to prevent worshiping that thing instead of god is part of the ten commandments as the second commandment
thinking about it shouldn't mosques and churches be considered distractions aswell? since people are in awe because of the building but not their believe in god
well idc don't believe in anything anyway
people end up worshiping him so hard they'd kill anyone drawing pictures of him
and that not having a picture/statue to prevent worshiping that thing instead of god is part of the ten commandments as the second commandment
thinking about it shouldn't mosques and churches be considered distractions aswell? since people are in awe because of the building but not their believe in god
well idc don't believe in anything anyway
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yunch (11/25/2015) [-] Those aggressive people are usually seen as the gun-ho hillbillies of Muslim society; loud, violent and ignorant.
The highest Sheikhs and Islamic scholars highly condemn the use of violence that those people take part in.
And you make a very important point about the mosques part.
The Prophet Muhammad looked down upon that concept and thought ill of "...those who adorn the mosques but leave their own hearts in ruins."
I personally do find mosques being adorned with gold and jewels something very distracting and quite opposite of the attitude of humility that Muslims should have.
The highest Sheikhs and Islamic scholars highly condemn the use of violence that those people take part in.
And you make a very important point about the mosques part.
The Prophet Muhammad looked down upon that concept and thought ill of "...those who adorn the mosques but leave their own hearts in ruins."
I personally do find mosques being adorned with gold and jewels something very distracting and quite opposite of the attitude of humility that Muslims should have.
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locke (11/24/2015) [-]
I agree with oil being a blessing for middle eastern countries, in fact not long ago a couple years at oldest a survey was conducted on the mineral wealth of this middle east and it was estimated that if full scale mining were to be conducted in countries around the middle-east they're sitting on a few trillion dollars in mineral wealth at least, but so few people are willing to risk the money to set up a mining facility when there's a good chance it will be a prime target to be attacked in political upheaval. the study i read checked Afghanistan, chances are if the middle east could stabilize enough to allow industries to tap into those reasources the countries would likely experience a huge economic boom.
article regarding subject: www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html?_r=0
article regarding subject: www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html?_r=0
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DivineInfinity (11/24/2015) [-] well that explains another chapter about the refugees.
thanks, now I can put their actions into a better perspective
thanks, now I can put their actions into a better perspective
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DivineInfinity (11/24/2015) [-] You were talking about refugees in your speech. thats what I was talking about
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yunch (11/24/2015) [-] Thanks for clearing that up.
Another aspect to add to the hecticness of the refugee crowd is that those are people who have been living in a corrupt ridden country for decades useless, cruel and brutal , that then got into involved in a bloody massacre of civilians entire year of 2011 with protesters getting killed , which then turned into an all out war.
It definitely is intimidating to see refugees like that, and people living in a peaceful environment would feel disturbed to witness such masses, but it's important we understand why people are acting the way they are.
Most of all, people are afraid to be taken back there, which is why they can be very defensive, confrontational and downright rude sometimes.
Another aspect to add to the hecticness of the refugee crowd is that those are people who have been living in a corrupt ridden country for decades useless, cruel and brutal , that then got into involved in a bloody massacre of civilians entire year of 2011 with protesters getting killed , which then turned into an all out war.
It definitely is intimidating to see refugees like that, and people living in a peaceful environment would feel disturbed to witness such masses, but it's important we understand why people are acting the way they are.
Most of all, people are afraid to be taken back there, which is why they can be very defensive, confrontational and downright rude sometimes.
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historybuff ONLINE (11/24/2015) [-] I would like everyone to note that the study he cited concerning the entire Arab world's GDP output is slightly out of date. The study he cited was from 1999. Adjusted to today, the entire Arab world ties with France, or double Spain's economy. However, that is still ridiculous
Nominal GDP per capita for the Arab League is 7,692 USD
For France, it is 42,403 USD
Each individual in France is a full 34,000 USD more profitable than the average Arab.
If the Arab world had a GDP per capita comparable to France, they would produce 15 trillion USD in GDP, or basically the US.
Nominal GDP per capita for the Arab League is 7,692 USD
For France, it is 42,403 USD
Each individual in France is a full 34,000 USD more profitable than the average Arab.
If the Arab world had a GDP per capita comparable to France, they would produce 15 trillion USD in GDP, or basically the US.
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khaox (11/24/2015) [-] "if you kill, do it properly, and if you slaughter, do it properly."
- Islam the religion of peace
Joke aside its pretty ****** up he could not name better examples.
- Islam the religion of peace
Joke aside its pretty ****** up he could not name better examples.
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corneliusfudge (11/24/2015) [-]
I think the point is that he was emphasising how not matter what it is that is happening, it must be done right and professionally. Even an act as atrocious as killing.
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yunch (11/24/2015) [-] As an Arab who's used to the terms he's used, he's talking about slaughtering of an animal so that it could be classed as 'halal' to eat.
Animals of all type have to be killed in a manner that will class it as 'halal' no strangling, no using blunt weapons, don't eat it if it died by falling or gored by the horns of another animal or eaten by a wild beast. It's quite a thorough list. . Sheikhs do bring it up because of the importance of what we put in our mouths.
I hope this'll give you an incite on how we Arabs actually do live like normal people and don't talk about death 24/7 like we're some textbook badguy society.
Animals of all type have to be killed in a manner that will class it as 'halal' no strangling, no using blunt weapons, don't eat it if it died by falling or gored by the horns of another animal or eaten by a wild beast. It's quite a thorough list. . Sheikhs do bring it up because of the importance of what we put in our mouths.
I hope this'll give you an incite on how we Arabs actually do live like normal people and don't talk about death 24/7 like we're some textbook badguy society.
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cabbagemayhem (11/24/2015) [-] You don't know what 'halal' means >>#107, yet you claim to be like them, know what they mean, and speak on their behalf? You may very well live like a normal person, but I think that has more to do with your Western influence than being Muslim.
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yunch (11/24/2015) [-] I'd like him to give me sauce to where he read about this.
My grandfather was a Syrian farmer and slaughtering animals for food was part of their everyday life. When you slaughter it Islamically then it is halal to eat.
The word 'halal' kind of means 'permitted' or 'allowed' as oppose to 'haram' which means not allowed. It's just that simple.
My grandfather was a Syrian farmer and slaughtering animals for food was part of their everyday life. When you slaughter it Islamically then it is halal to eat.
The word 'halal' kind of means 'permitted' or 'allowed' as oppose to 'haram' which means not allowed. It's just that simple.
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imalex (11/24/2015) [-] well youre sortoff wrong, halal means the animal is alive, hung up and has its throat cut.
while regular slaughtering is done with a impact gun (unsure of actual name) where the animal is knocked out cold before it is killed, this way it doesnt feel anything and its more humane
while regular slaughtering is done with a impact gun (unsure of actual name) where the animal is knocked out cold before it is killed, this way it doesnt feel anything and its more humane
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deathstare (11/24/2015) [-] You are completely wrong in that regard. "Halaal" is a method in which the animal does not know it's going to be killed until it's dead. Hanging the animal alive is not Halaal, because then it's certain of it's death. You must also use a sharpened blade, and the animal cannot know you're sharpening the blade to kill it. A swift chop to the neck is enough for God to take it's life. After it's dead, you may hang it, skin it, and prepare it for cooking.
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deathstare (11/24/2015) [-] Mostly, it's important to say, "Bismillah" before killing it
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deathstare (11/25/2015) [-] BBC had scientists prove that the bolt gun had higher stress levels throughout the entire scenerio. The Halaal Islamic slaughter had very little to no stress for the animal, because it was treated well before slaughtered. It's very strict what we can and can't eat, and though you'll find videos of Muslims killing animals in cruel ways, bear in mind that it's not the belief of the population as a whole. Those people are in it for profit under the false label of "Halaal"
Now, there are many people of non-Islamic faith that have decided to eat only Halaal meats because they are healthier. As a matter of fact, my neighbour, as she was shopping at the Halaal meat store with my wife and I, tried to convert us to Christianity.
Now, there are many people of non-Islamic faith that have decided to eat only Halaal meats because they are healthier. As a matter of fact, my neighbour, as she was shopping at the Halaal meat store with my wife and I, tried to convert us to Christianity.
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qtrfuckinghazard (11/24/2015) [-] As an Arab who lives in a RICH oil producing country, this man speaks the utter and complete truth, me and my friends discuss this issue all the time, except no one of authority or fame speaks of it except this man , us arabs are so full of ourselves, we'd rather stay unemployed and starve to death than work as a cashier clerk for an example, or a garage mechanic to earn our living, we just dont have the right mentality. sorry for any language errors
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selfdenyingbeggar (11/24/2015) [-]
Well... refusing to be slaves is actually kind of a good mentality. If the world had it, w would have better working conditions.
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yuichka ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-] My English oral and writing skills decreased after being out of education for around 2 years... Now I'm back in college and I start to pick things back up.
That is, I speak 3 languages; 1 of which I can hardly speak now, because I have no one to speak it with, but I can still understand it pretty well o/
Maybe you just don't try enough? B is a great grade though (All you need is a C for high-tier jobs). I myself have E because I was slacking school with 50% attendance...
That is, I speak 3 languages; 1 of which I can hardly speak now, because I have no one to speak it with, but I can still understand it pretty well o/
Maybe you just don't try enough? B is a great grade though (All you need is a C for high-tier jobs). I myself have E because I was slacking school with 50% attendance...
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civilizedwasteland (11/24/2015) [-] for me, as a native English speaker who can read and write (not speak) a couple of different languages, writing other languages is like looking at code and trying to convert it back into my head as English to get the syntax right. Where English is like blinking or breathing, i don't really put much more thought into it.
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yuichka ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-] It comes with experience.
English is not my native language although sometimes I catch myself thinking in English.
When I speak English I do not try to convert it to Russian and then back to English... It's just that... I think of English and speak it (like you said, blinking and breathing).
But maybe it's different for some people, hell I know.
English is not my native language although sometimes I catch myself thinking in English.
When I speak English I do not try to convert it to Russian and then back to English... It's just that... I think of English and speak it (like you said, blinking and breathing).
But maybe it's different for some people, hell I know.
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logiblack (11/25/2015) [-] Welp, the text is longer than I expected it to be, most of it is arguing whether a new set of grammar may lead to a different, grammar-dependent personality.
Proceed at your own risk
That certainly would be one of the best ways to learn any language I believe.
Instead of learning to translate your grammar into a different language by knowing vocabulary and the rules different to your own grammar, one should work to adept the different grammar and use it on it's own.
If I'm thinking of an english sentence I don't think german thoughts (my native tongue) but english.
Interestingly enough I believe there is a heavy connection between grammar and personality. There are many people who seem like another person if speaking another language (or at least carry unusual traits when conversing in another language)
I think this may be rooted in the adaption of a new grammar. No - not adaption but rather the construction of an entirely new, personal grammar. Which is used for speaking the new language. It's like growing up again - experiencing another world, leading to a different personlity. I think habits and automated actions may seep through and give somewhat of a resemblance to the 'native' personality.
I first thought of it, when I behaved kinda different in english class. More rude, more rash and sassy. The others didn't really notice - I think at least - but I did.
I spent much time on the english web and conversed with my foreign pals and stuff on english - that improved my english quite a lot (naturally). Different people behave different ways. I picked up the things I saw. For example the rashness, sassyness and rudeness of my pals and the internet in general (like you dimwits).
Now that alone is a natural thing. You grow with the things you experience and adapt.
The thing is, I did not adapt that behaviour in german but english only - that lead to me behaving a bit more rash in english class than in other classes.
It is not a different personality per se - I don't think one could talk of that in my case, since I at least lack the more apparent symptoms of a split personality. Could of course be, that it's just my personalities being pretty close, so they don't affect each other much.
The question now is, what exactly is happening there?
Is grammar behaving like a scope for personality? Instead of blue, now everything is red? A different set of experiences load, thus resulting in a different behaviour than native.
Or is creating an entirely new personality?
Acquiring a language in school prevents a completely different personality from scratch, I believe. Especially in the beginning people are using the native tongue to communicate, to clarify and much more. That creates too many crosslinks to the native personality, copying and loading native thoughts into the (possibly) new personality, making it essentially a modifyied version of the native one. The more one thinks in the old grammar, the old language whilst speaking the secondary one, the more you're copying the native pesonality into the new one.
Since I learned english in school and haven't picked up another language yet, I am no statisfying sample. I'm spoiled with my native personality in english, making it not an entirely new personality from scratch but a partially copied one. But I only really started to learn english when I was using it to write, chat and read tt in my spare time, not thinking in german for a long time, resulting in my english personality developing and cultivating on it's own.
Anyway, I'm neither a master in pschology nor in grammar so it may work in a completely different way and my theory may be completely flawed by something I am not aware of. It does make sense to me and maybe it helps someone find their way or whatever.
Pic unrelated.
Proceed at your own risk
That certainly would be one of the best ways to learn any language I believe.
Instead of learning to translate your grammar into a different language by knowing vocabulary and the rules different to your own grammar, one should work to adept the different grammar and use it on it's own.
If I'm thinking of an english sentence I don't think german thoughts (my native tongue) but english.
Interestingly enough I believe there is a heavy connection between grammar and personality. There are many people who seem like another person if speaking another language (or at least carry unusual traits when conversing in another language)
I think this may be rooted in the adaption of a new grammar. No - not adaption but rather the construction of an entirely new, personal grammar. Which is used for speaking the new language. It's like growing up again - experiencing another world, leading to a different personlity. I think habits and automated actions may seep through and give somewhat of a resemblance to the 'native' personality.
I first thought of it, when I behaved kinda different in english class. More rude, more rash and sassy. The others didn't really notice - I think at least - but I did.
I spent much time on the english web and conversed with my foreign pals and stuff on english - that improved my english quite a lot (naturally). Different people behave different ways. I picked up the things I saw. For example the rashness, sassyness and rudeness of my pals and the internet in general (like you dimwits).
Now that alone is a natural thing. You grow with the things you experience and adapt.
The thing is, I did not adapt that behaviour in german but english only - that lead to me behaving a bit more rash in english class than in other classes.
It is not a different personality per se - I don't think one could talk of that in my case, since I at least lack the more apparent symptoms of a split personality. Could of course be, that it's just my personalities being pretty close, so they don't affect each other much.
The question now is, what exactly is happening there?
Is grammar behaving like a scope for personality? Instead of blue, now everything is red? A different set of experiences load, thus resulting in a different behaviour than native.
Or is creating an entirely new personality?
Acquiring a language in school prevents a completely different personality from scratch, I believe. Especially in the beginning people are using the native tongue to communicate, to clarify and much more. That creates too many crosslinks to the native personality, copying and loading native thoughts into the (possibly) new personality, making it essentially a modifyied version of the native one. The more one thinks in the old grammar, the old language whilst speaking the secondary one, the more you're copying the native pesonality into the new one.
Since I learned english in school and haven't picked up another language yet, I am no statisfying sample. I'm spoiled with my native personality in english, making it not an entirely new personality from scratch but a partially copied one. But I only really started to learn english when I was using it to write, chat and read tt in my spare time, not thinking in german for a long time, resulting in my english personality developing and cultivating on it's own.
Anyway, I'm neither a master in pschology nor in grammar so it may work in a completely different way and my theory may be completely flawed by something I am not aware of. It does make sense to me and maybe it helps someone find their way or whatever.
Pic unrelated.
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yuichka ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-] I think you may be overthinking about it too much.
It's just that each of the languages/countries have their own set of jokes/community and so on.
You happen to like english community/jokes better than your native one, hence why your personalities differ from one another because you know whats right or wrong to say and act depending on language you're speaking and observed habbits and such of the two languages mentioned.
It's just that each of the languages/countries have their own set of jokes/community and so on.
You happen to like english community/jokes better than your native one, hence why your personalities differ from one another because you know whats right or wrong to say and act depending on language you're speaking and observed habbits and such of the two languages mentioned.
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locke (11/24/2015) [-]
fallout 4 the video and the name of the sheikh: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MX6BlTIZ2o
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anon (11/24/2015) [-] **anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image**When their oil runs out or when we find a cheaper cleaner and reusable energy source they will be left with NOTHING.
**anonymous rolled image**When their oil runs out or when we find a cheaper cleaner and reusable energy source they will be left with NOTHING.
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vytros (11/24/2015) [-] 
It's pretty fun when arab men are preaching the truth. I recommend you guys this speech of Gaddafi from back in 2008, and it's ******* ridiculously on point. I mean, he hated the west, but he genuinely wanted arab world to prosper.
It's pretty fun when arab men are preaching the truth. I recommend you guys this speech of Gaddafi from back in 2008, and it's ******* ridiculously on point. I mean, he hated the west, but he genuinely wanted arab world to prosper.
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tonicwater ONLINE (11/24/2015) [-] its probably good that they don't produce any of the nails in a car considering there aren't any.
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removekimchi (11/24/2015) [-] as soon as the oil runs dry, places like dubai are going to turn into ghost towns
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dasbrot (11/24/2015) [-] Someone explain to me how the "zionists" (I'm guessing Israelites) garnered success on their own merit/skill. Isn't their success backed only by their military, which the U.S. established to fight the damn commies?
I'm not from /pol/ I swear, but I can't name any isreali product (besides Uzis and Deagles) that serves a significant purpose to the world at large.
I'm not from /pol/ I swear, but I can't name any isreali product (besides Uzis and Deagles) that serves a significant purpose to the world at large.
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anon (11/25/2015) [-]
as he said in the video they made the desert green so i assume they produce their own crops and stuff which none or barely any of the arab countries do i suppose one well known (at least to me) isrealian product are peanuts and pistachos aswell if i remeber correctly but i'm pretty sure about peanuts
after googling it said that their main export is medical stuff
after googling it said that their main export is medical stuff
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Einsty (11/24/2015) [-] I dunno man, but ability to produce weaponry and armored vehicles at industrial scale indicates they probably have their **** together, but you can't expect a small state like that to have a majority car export in the world.
What did Ireland do for the world, or Denmark?
It's a wrong question.
What did Ireland do for the world, or Denmark?
It's a wrong question.
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dasbrot (11/24/2015) [-] but neither Ireland nor Denmark command any kind of prowess to bomb/annex other people. It seems that the only reason Israel still exists as a state is because of it's US backed military. Ireland and Denmark are still here for some reason, but it's not because they bully their neighbors.
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vivjames (11/24/2015) [-] You really can't work if you have to stop working and worship allah five times a day.
He says Arabs don't work, but I know all the non Muslim Arabs who work 24/7 and are even better workers than most Brits.
He says Arabs don't work, but I know all the non Muslim Arabs who work 24/7 and are even better workers than most Brits.
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herparderpington (11/25/2015) [-] Pools are an ethnicity.
Looks like they probably don't swim in welfare.
No need to say it I might not know dutch but pools is most likely poles
Looks like they probably don't swim in welfare.
No need to say it I might not know dutch but pools is most likely poles
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thirdjess ONLINE (11/25/2015) [-] Traditionally. Immigrant families who are second generation or more, typically the whole family works as is the norm in whatever cultures they live in.
So if Iranian husband, wife, and two daughters moved to England, the husband would work, the wife would keep house, and the two daughters would go to school and learn homely duties. Those two daughters grow up to be influenced by the English lifestyle, so they get jobs out of school. They break the chain. If they live in an "immigrant dense" area, where they are likely to find a suitor of the same religion, they might become a housewife as their mother did. But it's just the same as a white woman being a housewife, it's a personal choice, not a racial stereotype or a religious requirement.
So if Iranian husband, wife, and two daughters moved to England, the husband would work, the wife would keep house, and the two daughters would go to school and learn homely duties. Those two daughters grow up to be influenced by the English lifestyle, so they get jobs out of school. They break the chain. If they live in an "immigrant dense" area, where they are likely to find a suitor of the same religion, they might become a housewife as their mother did. But it's just the same as a white woman being a housewife, it's a personal choice, not a racial stereotype or a religious requirement.
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anon (11/24/2015) [-]
Basically this guy does the same as those that started protestantism, where work and excellence were seen as doing gods duty, rather than following his rules and waiting for heaven. Max Weber (of of the first sociologists) wrote an incredibly influential book on it, Protestantism and the Spirit of Capitalism.
Thisguy is basically making Islam go through the same steps as Catholicism did.
This goes to show that Islam isn't so much worse, but just underdeveloped in this regard
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Thisguy is basically making Islam go through the same steps as Catholicism did.
This goes to show that Islam isn't so much worse, but just underdeveloped in this regard
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kombee (11/25/2015) [-] I'd argue that it's the people that's the problem, as the Sheikh mentioned himself, Islam has always put doing good and working hard in good light. It's not like the Quran doesn't advocate it, it very strongly does so both on an ethical and practical level.
Also its not really an islamic issue, it's an issue with arab people whom (for the mosty part) happen to be muslim, and their attitudes and outlet towards life, which as the sheikh mentioned are unislamic in and of themselves.
Also, this is hardly news in the arab world. Practically everyone from Morocco to Afghanistan knows this and has been talking about it in great length. Heck every year I visit Tunisia, this is the topic I always get to hear and talk about with taxi-drivers, shop-clerks, realtives etc. Not that I complain, I believe we in fact need to talk about it more yet still, however the arab world also need to adopt these changes they keep talking about, and luckily, it seems to be turning for the better.
Also its not really an islamic issue, it's an issue with arab people whom (for the mosty part) happen to be muslim, and their attitudes and outlet towards life, which as the sheikh mentioned are unislamic in and of themselves.
Also, this is hardly news in the arab world. Practically everyone from Morocco to Afghanistan knows this and has been talking about it in great length. Heck every year I visit Tunisia, this is the topic I always get to hear and talk about with taxi-drivers, shop-clerks, realtives etc. Not that I complain, I believe we in fact need to talk about it more yet still, however the arab world also need to adopt these changes they keep talking about, and luckily, it seems to be turning for the better.
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anon (11/25/2015) [-]
no dude, this is the fundamental Islam. That is why hes saying hard work is an important underlying aspect of Islam. Its the people that have deviated and become lazy as time passed. Look at the middle east during the Islamic Golden age; the economy was booming and advancements in science and mathematics were ripe. I'm afraid to admit we've just become lazy bums.
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wolverinebamf (11/24/2015) [-] good, then islam will become as peaceful as Catholicism some day.
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exterreno (11/24/2015) [-]
Catholicism went through protestantism not to come out as "peaceful Catholicism", but as the other christian religions Lutheranism, Calvinism, Anglicanism, Mormonism, etc
What he is saying is that another branch of Islam may appear just like branches of Christianity appeared after the protestant reformation.
Although I wouldn't label neither protestants or catholics as "more peaceful than the other" nowadays.
What he is saying is that another branch of Islam may appear just like branches of Christianity appeared after the protestant reformation.
Although I wouldn't label neither protestants or catholics as "more peaceful than the other" nowadays.
