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Back up your story, bro!

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meals en base and den' t pay state taxes. ll. married
soldier gets a higher wage than a single soldier. and
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in a reem roughly 20x30 feet, with no control Over"
the heat or AC, black mold in almost 50% of barracks
accross at least the Marine barracks, and little to no
freedom to actually change the reem to actually feel
like a home.
The "Free" meals apply only to the generally
catchalls which are not usually very healthy. Those
meals are alse only allowed during separate roughly
3 hour blocks through out the day and if youve
stuck at work and can' t get out, then you don' t get
your "free" meal like we were supposed to.
I don' t know who told we we don' t pay state taxes,
hut that is false. Every single service member I know
pays state taxes.
While it' s true a married service member is allotted
additional funds to pay for housing, they lese those
funds should they elect to live on base.
Did we do ANY research be for we said those
things?
not going to criminalize being an unskilled
worker, I feel for we. I have been broke and
struggling to survive on very little money.
That being said, don' t we dare tell me the burger
flipper deserves the same pay as the young
man/ woman willing to die for their country. Sorry
I' m not sorry if youve offended by my thoughts.
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#117 - bazda (12/10/2013) [+] (15 replies)
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Low level fast food jobs were never meant to be careers. If you don't like making minimum wage, get a better job. Educate yourself or go to trade school and learn a skill. Paying unskilled workers $15/hour to make low quality food will not give them a "living wage," as the cost of everything else in the country will go up to reflect the increase in minimum wage. Anyone with even basic information on how economics works knows this is a terrible idea that won't help anyone.
#27 - anonymous (12/09/2013) [+] (1 reply)
ITT: the poor bitch at eachother while the rich keep getting richer.
#40 - ketchupshinobi (12/10/2013) [-]
BEHOLD! OP HAS SUMMONED PARAGRAPHS!
BEHOLD! OP HAS SUMMONED PARAGRAPHS!
User avatar #73 - Maroon (12/10/2013) [+] (4 replies)
Everyone is looking at this at completely the wrong way. Instead of saying, "Hey, look how much it sucks to be them. They shouldn't complain because their life doesn't suck that hard." Maybe we should take a step back as a society and make it so nobody's life sucks that hard. Realistically speaking, it is impossible to live on your own with minimum wage without working 70 hour weeks and even then what you can afford isn't good by any means. The only way to live off that pay is to stay with parents or share a house/apartment with several other people. People wonder why so many take unemployment instead of getting a job, well that's why. Why would they work their ass off to get a quality of life equal or even lower than the one that they could have for free?
User avatar #41 - thenewnuggubler ONLINE (12/10/2013) [+] (5 replies)
I gotta call ******** on the last part, at least on some things. My dad's served in Iraq twice, and both times their provided housing was in excellent condition for being well more than reused, and they all got their own places, along with them being decent sized, and decent amenities. The food was decent by the standards of the area, and there was a general store with tons of stuff available on base. They also provided wifi.
#97 - zekaizer (12/10/2013) [+] (2 replies)
Why not raise both wages?
#124 - softcover (12/10/2013) [+] (3 replies)
I'm assuming you're American so stay with me,   
   
for the bonus pay that you get for over time, and for weekends, and for nights, and health care for life, free burial, college, you are actually exempt from sales tax on bases, retire after 20 years, you'd have to screw up majorly in most branches to not get promoted after 3-5 years, most people aren't seeing battle time.   
   
You guys get a whole hell of a lot that isn't mentioned in that post.
I'm assuming you're American so stay with me,

for the bonus pay that you get for over time, and for weekends, and for nights, and health care for life, free burial, college, you are actually exempt from sales tax on bases, retire after 20 years, you'd have to screw up majorly in most branches to not get promoted after 3-5 years, most people aren't seeing battle time.

You guys get a whole hell of a lot that isn't mentioned in that post.
#98 - anonymous (12/10/2013) [-]
Logic fallacy: False equivalence. Moving on.

User avatar #35 - nightmareschild (12/10/2013) [+] (5 replies)
I was reading this type of stuff earlier today, my only thought is that minimum should be raised although 15 might be a bit high. Minimum wage was created as a living wage if I remember correctly.
#37 to #36 - nightmareschild (12/10/2013) [-]
This topic really interest me, I read alot ,but i'm not knowledgeable about finances enough to argue. I do wonder though, If what you say is true, wouldn't the raise in wages cancel out the raise in prices? And why would company's have to raise their prices cheaper, if people get more money, they spend more (usually), so why not just leave prices at level with a wage raise? (Kinda like black friday in a way.)

Anyway those are just my thoughts.
#32 - oxYKellark (12/10/2013) [-]
The comments are always 						****					 storms on FJ surrounding anything military. As a former arm chair general who thought he knew everything about the military in highschool i can say without a doubt even thought i was absolutely fascinated and almost obsessed with the military before i joined up i realized very quickly that i knew absolutely nothing about the military at all.  My point is that you truly DO NOT.... DO NOT! know anything until you are put into someone elses shoes. So i can tell you my point of view from the military side and i can say all the bonus, on base housing and 						****					 the first argument made is absolutely not true. As far as the mother of 4 kids stuck in limbo working at Mickey D's to barely make it by every year living in a 						******					 apartment i cannot speak for and so i will not judge anyone for demanding higher wages. However like some people will argue, you volunteered for the military it was your choice, so deal with it. Yes that is true, but it was also their choice to not go to college and get a degree and have sex with some 						********					 who left them after they got pregnant. It is your choice to do what you want in this world, if you are unhappy do not blame anyone but yourself.
The comments are always **** storms on FJ surrounding anything military. As a former arm chair general who thought he knew everything about the military in highschool i can say without a doubt even thought i was absolutely fascinated and almost obsessed with the military before i joined up i realized very quickly that i knew absolutely nothing about the military at all. My point is that you truly DO NOT.... DO NOT! know anything until you are put into someone elses shoes. So i can tell you my point of view from the military side and i can say all the bonus, on base housing and **** the first argument made is absolutely not true. As far as the mother of 4 kids stuck in limbo working at Mickey D's to barely make it by every year living in a ****** apartment i cannot speak for and so i will not judge anyone for demanding higher wages. However like some people will argue, you volunteered for the military it was your choice, so deal with it. Yes that is true, but it was also their choice to not go to college and get a degree and have sex with some ******** who left them after they got pregnant. It is your choice to do what you want in this world, if you are unhappy do not blame anyone but yourself.
#13 - kankerkanker (12/09/2013) [+] (2 replies)
If you think you're not making enough money at McDonald's, quit and find another job or go to school. If you think living conditions in the military are sub-par, don't join the military. I don't know what the ******* problem is, but neither of the people in OP's post are making sense.
#10 - jakatackka ONLINE (12/09/2013) [+] (1 reply)
Why not improve the conditions of both parties? I'm from an area with rampant poverty. Some of the people go into the military, others are trapped in minimum-wage jobs and are perpetually unable to make ends meet. Why can't both parties be paid a living wage?
User avatar #145 - MrMustacho ONLINE (12/10/2013) [+] (1 reply)
1) we don't get paid enough so others shouldn't get fair pay either

2) but you get free stuff as compensation for **** pay while we don't

3) that "free" stuff is **** so others should be paid even less than us
#128 - anonymous (12/10/2013) [+] (1 reply)
Who are MOST people working minimum wage? Middle class teenagers....
Raising minimum wage will cause UNEMPLOYMENT.
Competition for those jobs will increase. Why pay $30000 year to go to college to get a degree that you may not be able to use when you graduate and if you do get one, its one that starts at a wage similar to unskilled minimum wages. Raising minimum wages only causes more problems and is too broad. Targeted subsidies wouuld be a lot more efficient
#99 - anonymous (12/10/2013) [+] (2 replies)
Instead of just correcting and actually thinking about how ****** both min-wage and army situations are OP is basically saying "BLAH BLAH ARMY BAD BLAH BLAH I HAS BAD BLAH BLAH YOU DON'T GET TO COMPLAIN CAUSE I HAS WORSE BLAH BLAH **** MIN-WAGE PEOPLE I'M BETTER."
Do you know that some states don't even have a minimum wage? You do some goddamn research and you'll learn why they are so pissed.
#115 to #99 - bazda (12/10/2013) [-]
There is a federal minimum wage, so yes, every state does have a minimum wage.
#5 - purplegolem (12/09/2013) [+] (2 replies)
The debate here is not that one should be paid more instead of the other, its that both should be paid more.

As someone who is paid minimum wage, I can confirm that if I had to I would be unable to live off of it. The fact that I flip burgers (in this case, chicken) is irrelevant.

Let me repeat that. I could work for forty hours a week, and be unable to support myself. Now I understand that people with a degree or a certain subset of skills should obviously make more. To think otherwise would be silly.

But the fact remains that there are people out there who work full time and cannot live off of those wages. It is a scary thought.

#136 - SimianLich (12/10/2013) [+] (2 replies)
If the people at McDonalds did any actual work then maybe I would think about raising their wages up to 12 an hour.

On another note, by raising minimum wage, they increase the prices of the goods McDonalds has to serve, which in turn means that less people will buy food from McDonalds. Which means less revenue, which leads to people getting fired simply because its not cost effective to keep them around.
#49 - CosplayNinja (12/10/2013) [+] (4 replies)
Military food and housing is not free - it is deducted from your paycheck whether or not you use it. (Dad is Air Force for 20+ years, Uncle is Coast Gaurd for 10+ years, Fiance was army for 8 years, best friend is Navy for 14 years.)
#45 - anonymous (12/10/2013) [+] (1 reply)
Why can't the pro-military **** realize that they BOTH deserve a pay raise.

And rather than attack the burger flipper with an argument that is basically saying "If my life sucks, yours has to also!" and realize who the real ******* enemy is.

A soldier should make decent wages, and anyone working 50+ hours a week should be able to afford to ******* live.

I remember what fast food was like, and it is much more demanding than most "real jobs".

My last job paid 17 bucks an hour to ******* do spreadsheets...
While a McDonald's worker has to multi-task like a maniac (If he's a decent employee)
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