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User avatar #10 - potatorgue (10/08/2015) [-]
everytime i see TPP now i think of metal gear solid 5
#27 to #10 - nationalanthem (10/08/2015) [-]
Cray how nature do dat
#22 to #10 - anon (10/08/2015) [-]
They released MGS:TPP to distract you from the actual TPP. And it worked.
User avatar #2 - whiteusername ONLINE (10/08/2015) [-]
Did you just figure this out? I'm going to sound like a conspiracy nut, but right after Netanyahu completely burned Obama in front of the US the Oklahoma shooting happened.

Sandy Hook = Obamacare
Nignog Church shooting = TPP
Oklahoma = Obabo was embarrassed

WAKE UP AMERICA
#33 to #2 - anon (10/08/2015) [-]
Obamacare was tossed back and forth and turned into **** because of it.
Stupid move to try and get that through with a very Republican congress.
User avatar #38 to #2 - runescapewasgood (10/08/2015) [-]
Pretty sure this kind of **** always happens in America, but it's only widely publicized when it's to the advantage of politicians in power.
#42 to #2 - innocentbabies (10/08/2015) [-]
They're not behind them. They're just blowing them out of proportion to further their agendas. It's not unusual or mindblowing at all.
User avatar #45 to #2 - elsenortamatoe (10/08/2015) [-]
Mention the fact that these have crisis actors as well, and it suggest false flag
User avatar #48 to #2 - Ruspanic ONLINE (10/08/2015) [-]
Or, you know. Sometimes different events happen at the same time.
User avatar #5 to #2 - oxymoronking ONLINE (10/08/2015) [-]
what about oregon?
User avatar #8 to #5 - charlesanthony (10/08/2015) [-]
The TPP thing that passed happened a few days after it, that's quite the coincident.
User avatar #9 to #8 - charlesanthony (10/08/2015) [-]
coincidence*
#23 to #2 - anon (10/08/2015) [-]
It hasn't occured to you that **** is always going down?
#44 to #23 - detroitshanker (10/08/2015) [-]
Yeah, there's a shooting like once every month or two (or so I hear anyway) so there's always going to be something political going on around the same time.
User avatar #6 - theplanetearth (10/08/2015) [-]
Revolution after TPP passes? I say we all write to our congressmen to vote for at least the Southern States to secede. We've got all the advantages we need. More guns than up North, Texas on our side, and we're on the good side of all the choke points.
User avatar #16 to #6 - lulzdealer ONLINE (10/08/2015) [-]
You literally just talked up the same points that made the South think they could win the last time.

And actually, they were right. The Union couldn't outfight the South, they had to blockade them and starve them out.
#25 to #16 - anon (10/08/2015) [-]
That's actually a part of fighting. There's no honor in war.
#26 to #16 - anon (10/08/2015) [-]
Yeah, because the highly industrialized north was unable to outfight the rural south. Get your head out of your ass; the only thing going for the South was their Generals. I mean, the Confederates couldn't even be bothered to get actual uniforms for their Army at times.
User avatar #53 to #16 - Tyranitar (10/08/2015) [-]
They had more guns, but they found out pretty quick that more guns doesn't mean **** when all the ammo is being made up north.
User avatar #17 to #6 - nimba (10/08/2015) [-]
You realise countries can't survive on small arms alone?
User avatar #19 to #6 - Tyranitar (10/08/2015) [-]
Do you realize how quickly a small nation not recognized by any other countries would get annihilated by instantly going to war with America today?
User avatar #41 to #19 - theplanetearth (10/08/2015) [-]
Do you realize that if Texas pulls out that Russia has their backs, and that the army has a 75% defection rate in a war against Americans?
User avatar #36 to #19 - talpss (10/08/2015) [-]
Yea but Texas is a pretty big contributor to American energy and stuff, 1/3 of all energy produced comes from there. The South probably would get ****** , but if that's what it takes to send a message to Washington about treading on our freedom, then so be it.
User avatar #39 to #36 - Tyranitar (10/08/2015) [-]
A failed rebellion would only make oppression worse, because now the government knows for certain that we're too weak to stop them.
User avatar #40 to #39 - talpss (10/08/2015) [-]
But it's going to make the government really unpopular and could potentially damage relations with other counries depending on what they did during the war, plus it could inspire uprisings in other countries. The French Revolution didn't die with Napoleon, you know.
#3 - anon (10/08/2015) [-]
is it possible u guys are complaining about something u dont understand?
#46 to #3 - anon (10/08/2015) [-]
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dont expect these fagots to agree
#7 to #3 - anon (10/08/2015) [-]
Just because you don't understand doesn't mean the grown ups can't talk about it.
User avatar #15 to #7 - peanutsaurusrex (10/08/2015) [-]
Yeah **** the TPP
We don't need anymore damned toilet paper we have enough
#47 to #7 - anon (10/08/2015) [-]
**anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image**>grown ups
User avatar #18 to #3 - lean (10/08/2015) [-]
Joshua Meltzer of the Brookings Institution, an American think tank, gave testimony to the House Small Business Committee on the implications of the TPP. During the hearing, entitled "U.S. Trade Strategy: What's Next for Small Business Exports?", Meltzer stated that as of 2012 the Asia-Pacific region accounted for 60 percent of global GDP and 50 percent of international trade, and is the fastest growing region in the world. The Brookings Institution estimated in 2012 that TPP would generate $5 billion in economic benefits to the US in 2015, and $14 billion in 2025. The economic benefits would likely be larger if the impact of investment liberalization under TPP were also considered. The TPP should generate growth opportunities for small and medium business exporters in the US, which represented 40 percent of US goods exports as of 2012. Small businesses tend to benefit disproportionately from trade liberalization, since they are less likely than large enterprises to establish overseas subsidiaries to overcome trade barriers. The TPP will also help counter the trend toward greater economic integration, which excludes the US, in the Asia-Pacific region.

the clearest winners of the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement would be American agriculture, along with technology and pharmaceutical companies, insurers and many large manufacturers" who could expand exports.

Good for major corporations, doesn't do dick for small business/ everyone else. Guess its time to get in to the major corporation business, that's easy to do isn't it?
User avatar #30 to #18 - victhree (10/08/2015) [-]
5 billion $/300 million people = 16 dollars per person. Any common man who supports this literally values their rights less than 16$ a year. No wonder they want to keep it in the shadows.
User avatar #28 to #3 - theterranigh (10/08/2015) [-]
You just have to remember Funny junk is full of people that believe anything they see as fact. Nearly all critical analysis by the media has determined the TPPA to not hold governments to ransom and is primarily focused of opening free trade. Initial documents were leaked from one of the American proposals, which in no way reflects the current deals, has led to confusion. Source: Hours of CNN, Algazeeeeera, Bbc and RT.
User avatar #31 to #28 - Visier ONLINE (10/08/2015) [-]
"Funny junk is full of people that believe anything they see as fact."
Only if it's written in white letters with a picture in the background
#4 - tutteredboast (10/08/2015) [-]
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User avatar #1 - anonymoussarcasm (10/08/2015) [-]
OP is the 8th grade not treating you great?
#11 to #1 - cleomech (10/08/2015) [-]
Are you trying to say that pointing this out is being edgy? Are you that far gone?

I can assure you this is quite real and your denial doesn't make it any less so. Why not just take a minute and look up some info about TPP and the fast-track policy? Or are you just afraid that major corporations and governments might not be run by gleaming paragons of human perfection?
User avatar #12 to #11 - anonymoussarcasm (10/08/2015) [-]
There's agreements like this every single year. They aren't new. Humanity is still here.
User avatar #13 to #12 - cleomech (10/08/2015) [-]
You're not wrong but you're not right either. The key word here is "like", and while TPP might be similar, it's not the same. There's a lot of things that make it worse than its predecessors.

But suit yourself, you know? I can start ranting, but I can't change your mind as long as you strongly believe that you are in the right.
User avatar #32 to #12 - victhree (10/08/2015) [-]
The fact that it's a common occurrence doesn't make it better. And this deal is ESPECIALLY dangerous. There's nothing edgy about wanting justice. Even if there was, would you really hold a small fraction of your social reputation over your beliefs? I used to think like that, until I realised how toxic a mindset it was.
User avatar #37 - darksideofthebeast (10/08/2015) [-]
Well, I like the phantom pain anyway.
#35 - DudeBro (10/08/2015) [-]
TPP was originally greenlighted 2 days after gay marriage was legalized. This has been going on since the inception of the U.S government.

But its not as bad as you think. I am definitely not very trusting of the government, but the TPP could be a step in the right direction to digging this country out of debt.

I'm not saying to blindly support it, but all I see online is that the TPP is a big scary bill that ends the world or sells us out, which is not actually the case. Although the TPP might threaten intellectual property, and create stricter online copyright laws (If TPP went worldwide Piratebay couldn't exist anywhere on Earth) it isn't all bad.

What the TPP actually looks to do is level the playing field. How can small/medium businesses grow when they have to compete with giant companies that have the money to out source their labor to countries where there are no safety regulations, no environmental control and no age/hour restrictions on laborers. Its impossible to sell the same product at a competitive rate, when you have to hire someone, pay them livable wages, give them benefits, keep your workplace safe, coincide with EPA standards and pay taxes. Then your competitor, a giant company pays some child 6c an hour in a tiny factory housing 100's of workers thats a giant fire and pollution hazard. You just can't compete

But the TPP is not all good. The main reason the TPP is viewed as bad, is because it gives U.S corporate power, more power than the government of accepting Nations. But it has to do this, although this is sort of like world domination for the U.S., it is necessary because the TPP looks to force all U.S safety and environmental standards across the world. Effectively ending any underpaid, unsafe, environmentally hazardous, and unfair factories/sweat shops. It's going to make U.S products buy-able again, everything might not say Made in China anymore.

All in all, the TPP pretty much looks to regulate safety standards around the world. It honestly would help the U.S. a great deal, it definitely is not as evil as people say. Again, do not just blindly trust it though because its nitty-gritty details are locked away from the public which is still very scary. But just know that on the surface, the TPP is not a huge evil world dominating partnership that sells you out.
User avatar #43 to #35 - thismustbeseen (10/08/2015) [-]
why is it the US's health and safety standards that get imposed? Why not any other county that also signed the TPP? Why isn't it a common set of standards that all signatory countries agreed to?
User avatar #52 to #43 - derpthefifth ONLINE (10/08/2015) [-]
Well i'm pretty sure that would be because the US standards are the best without being unreasonable.... but if you want to go sifting through other countries health and safety standards to prove me wrong go for it.
Then i'll admit that it is because it is and also i wouldn't be surprised if america was the one providing most any/all support in the case of noncompliance.
User avatar #54 to #52 - thismustbeseen (10/09/2015) [-]
I'm pretty sure they aren't the best, but if you want to go sifting through them to prove me wrong go for it.

... but it doesn't really matter. They're probably good enough, and it doesn't really change my opinion of TPP.
User avatar #51 to #43 - ilovehitler (10/08/2015) [-]
The US has incredible power, so that definitely helps when you don't feel like changing your own country's rules.

Given that their standards are good, but not the best, it raises the worst offenses up to a better standard without potentially bankrupting countries.

Main thing is probably the US didn't feel like changing the standards they have, so they influenced enough people so they didn't have to.
User avatar #50 to #35 - derpthefifth ONLINE (10/08/2015) [-]
I actually genuinely enjoy that this is a thing, and the part of me that is a politician (or politically minded at least) loves it. With that said the part of me that's a consumer just can't get over "but muh pirate bay!"
#34 - thealmightyantler (10/08/2015) [-]
>Dylann Roof
>Asshole
/pol/ has made me a bad person. I'm kidding guys he's a monster
User avatar #24 - robinwilliamson (10/08/2015) [-]
Oh, I see another "I read a headline and know everything about this" post

This "Fast Track Authority" (Which is not a new thing, just a renewed thing that we've had several time before in different versions), or as it's called now by the Ways and Means Committee waysandmeans.house.gov/subcommittee/trade/ , Trade Promotion Authority, is a general trade deal legislation process regulation, and actually made it a requirement to make all trade deals in the future public 60 days in advance before Congress starts the votes, and then it sits in Congress for up to 30 days, essentially allowing a good three months (which is a fairly long time for something to stir if you remember how long other things have been public) for this to even be accepted by Congress.

So you can drop your tinfoil hat and Obama-hate train for this one.
User avatar #21 - Pink Floyd (10/08/2015) [-]
[Citation needed]
User avatar #20 - ninesundev (10/08/2015) [-]
That is the exact same thing that is going on here in Europe now. TTIP gets over yell by the migrants in the media ...
#29 - averagepenaus (10/08/2015) [-]
wasn't that 2 months ago?
User avatar #14 - theoldfritz (10/08/2015) [-]
The kid might be an idiot but he got a nice boer jacket
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