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#5 - lulusaurus (12/24/2015) [-]
Soon.
#200 to #5 - irishjohnny (12/25/2015) [-]
Comment of the year.
User avatar #166 to #5 - splatter (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
User avatar #145 to #5 - jarkinmopsin (12/25/2015) [-]
**jarkinmopsin rolled user burningchimera ** TRAITOR
#195 to #5 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
Soon...
#128 to #74 - aftalbeating (12/25/2015) [-]
**aftalbeating used "*roll picture*"**
**aftalbeating rolled image** Traitor!!
User avatar #93 to #74 - fistings (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR in this thread
#157 to #74 - gladiacelt (12/25/2015) [-]
**gladiacelt used "*roll picture*"**
**gladiacelt rolled image** TRAITOR!
User avatar #91 to #74 - urikhi ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#121 to #74 - lollypopalopicus ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR in this thread
User avatar #110 to #74 - flameblaze ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#107 to #74 - internetnick (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR!
User avatar #123 to #74 - theonlyspy ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR!
User avatar #140 to #74 - chaossniper (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR in this thread
User avatar #138 to #74 - sympathyfordevil (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#203 to #74 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
**anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image**Traitor in this thread.
User avatar #194 to #74 - sobir (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
User avatar #137 to #74 - demofox (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
User avatar #135 to #74 - whitenerdy (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR in this thread
User avatar #132 to #74 - genericnaim (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR IN THIS THREAD
#129 to #74 - keeponsailing (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#147 to #74 - allotafagina (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#146 to #74 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#142 to #74 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#207 to #74 - datdeath (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR!!!
#202 to #74 - amicoolnowmom (12/25/2015) [-]
For the fourth time, TRAITOR
User avatar #199 to #74 - irishjohnny (12/25/2015) [-]
Traitor!
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User avatar #193 to #74 - monkeylord (12/25/2015) [-]
T R A I T O R
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User avatar #183 to #74 - antiherojoshua (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
User avatar #179 to #74 - jeffthellamaking (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR in this thread.
Here's to hoping...
User avatar #169 to #74 - friedgreenpomatoes (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#168 to #74 - aqo (12/25/2015) [-]
**aqo used "*roll picture*"**
**aqo rolled image** TRAITOR
User avatar #164 to #74 - stroganoff (12/25/2015) [-]
T R A I T O R
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User avatar #152 to #74 - breensbestfriend (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#27 to #5 - battlebrotherlayn (12/25/2015) [-]
OHOHOHOHO LET IT BEGIN, LET IT BEGIN!
User avatar #28 to #27 - brassydolphin (12/25/2015) [-]
inb4 traitor thread
#29 to #28 - lulusaurus (12/25/2015) [-]
GIF
The thread don't start till I spin in.
User avatar #41 to #29 - misternobodie ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Im so surprised we dont have a themed traitor acc here on fj.
User avatar #64 to #41 - stormtraitor (12/25/2015) [-]
Got you covered, fam
User avatar #65 to #64 - misternobodie ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Ha ! !
User avatar #69 to #27 - loganmadder (12/25/2015) [-]
haven't seen the movie, yes I already know how it ends, but why is this a meme
#94 to #69 - lulusaurus (12/25/2015) [-]
Click to show spoiler
Pretty much
Finn runs away from The First Order.
Loyal Stormtrooper of many spins spots him in a battlefield.
Shouts TRAITOR, while throwing down his blaster and pulling out his stun stick to deal justice.
Is a badass.
Defeats Finn.
Gets killed by that rebel scum Han.
He will live on in our hearts as merchandise.
#148 to #94 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
"He will live on in our hearts as merchandise. "
#133 to #94 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
TRAITOR
#67 - Aleafe (12/25/2015) [-]
I had a different idea but sure...
#198 to #67 - sgtmajjohnson ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Damnit. Should've posted a model III like pic related; they were orphans. II's were abducted children and IV's were military volunteers.
#1 - asshatfartface (12/24/2015) [-]
Unpopular?
Not with me.
#10 - anon (12/24/2015) [-]
don't be ridiculous, there's already enough orphans and if you make the prize a loving family those suckers will go nuts in the ring,
#4 - totallytito ONLINE (12/24/2015) [-]
What I find depressing about this is that the majority a similar thing happens with children of poor parents.
They can't afford a college education, so they suck up to the military for a free job as long as they have moderate intelligence and physical ability,
then they come home as reserves to be screwed by their lack of benefits, sometimes with cheating girlfriends.
It's a bit depressing... it happened to my step brother.
His pride is so high that he's unwilling to admit how he's struggling to afford that big fancy house. My parents can see it, and so can I. It looks beautiful on the outside, but the inside is a bit depressing..

I sometimes send him checks on special occasions to help him out.
Really the big difference between us is that I went for financial aid to go to a regular college, and he went to the military for a better college.

The end result is that I walked out with a higher salary job and didn't have to go through extra stress.

I wish the government didn't disrespect its own soldiers so much..
A massive percentage of our taxes go towards the military, and never use it right...
#68 to #4 - tropenthatshtup (12/25/2015) [-]
I have a friend who did this for the money, and it worked out great for him. The difference was, he lives in Canada. He left at age 16 stayed for something like 6-8 years learning about ships, firearms, and technology, running drills keeping in good physical and mental health, and earning money.
He never had to serve in any action (though he is probably in the Canadian equivalent to the Army Reserves now) made money to bring back and start him off at a decent point to build his life from. He wasn't super pressured to find a job because he could afford nearly a year of food and rent and wasn't feeling like a drain on his parents. (I believe he lived nearby and visited occasionally but lived on his own) He got a nice job and whatever.
It really makes me regret going to college, knowing I could have used the money I had saved in high school to find a job I enjoyed/wanted ( or at least training for it) and possibly have gotten it instead of diving headfirst into debt for a chance at a "better" job.
pic related its me
User avatar #209 to #4 - RisenLichen ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
I can only wonder what my service is going to teach me.

I hoped that when I joined I would learn more about the world and myself, while doing some interesting jobs and work that would get me by in the real world. But after reading all of these comments about people in the service and what's going on with them, I don't know if the choice I made was the right one. Then again, at the time, wasn't really a choice.
User avatar #26 to #4 - sudminator (12/25/2015) [-]
"sometimes with cheating girlfriends" SOMETIMES? Man if you're in the army, got a girl, AND **** off for a year to fight, she WILL **** someone else, while staying with her beloved patriotic hero
#204 to #26 - drewjitsu (12/25/2015) [-]
Dunno why you're swimming in red, you're absolutely right.
#88 to #26 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
wow women suck, I'm gonna be gay now.
User avatar #215 to #88 - sudminator (12/25/2015) [-]
Not exactly the solution I would choose........,,,
User avatar #73 to #26 - sudminator (12/25/2015) [-]
Truth hurts baby.
User avatar #11 to #4 - radicalkid (12/24/2015) [-]
What is your job?
#12 to #11 - totallytito ONLINE (12/24/2015) [-]
GIF
Originally I was a hydraulic technician, but I felt that fixing yacht steering systems and cranes didn't really peak my interest, so I went for what I liked.

Currently an animator and modeler for small companies and game projects while balancing college. I have an AS degree, but I'd rather have a masters so I could someday teach the next generation everything that I've learned.
User avatar #48 to #12 - trojanhulc (12/25/2015) [-]
sorry if this is intruding on this very real conversation but what is the source of that gif?
User avatar #50 to #48 - totallytito ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
I am the source.
Gundam Lanza animation

themechspert.tumblr.com/
User avatar #71 to #50 - tropenthatshtup (12/25/2015) [-]
Holy crap didn't expect this kind of skill from you Tito.
Its really good, I can see what you mean worrying about the quality but its not always the best idea to make a 6 second clip (I'm sure full source is longer just and example) absolutely perfect compared to a decent one that serves its point without costing your sanity. It's good enough but its good that you are striving for better
User avatar #54 to #50 - trojanhulc (12/25/2015) [-]
well good fricken job, you should be proud
User avatar #56 to #54 - totallytito ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
The quality/res could've been higher, but my main desktop failed, so I had no choice but to continue on a 6 year old laptop. My desktop is working again, so I'll be doing another soon.
User avatar #58 to #56 - totallytito ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
*Desktop died
User avatar #208 to #50 - RisenLichen ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
reminds me, I should finish Xenoblade X
#127 to #50 - swagbot ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Well **** me.... that alpaca-potato video is simultaneously the most pointless and the most adorable thing I've ever seen.
User avatar #187 to #127 - totallytito ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Then follow her. I didnt make that one lol
#125 to #4 - swagbot ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
You're right on every level.

The U.S. is ****** because a few people are stealing all the money / making stupid rules, and everyone else (for some reason that I'll never ******* understand) are just letting them do it, like a bunch of brain-dead, castrated sheep.

My little bro had a cataclysmic falling out with our psycho-crazy-midwest-abused mom. Angry, and not seeing any other easy paths for employment, skill, or general progress in life, he went straight into the Army this last Summer, and wouldn't listen to anyone to the contrary. He's back on leave... i just got back from his legal wedding appointment a few hours ago - he just married his girl, and wanted me as one of his marriage witnesses

He's the youngest of us 4 siblings, and the first to get married. How 'bout that?

What am i pissed about?
> My low-spectrum Asperger / Autistic Dad and my ******** crazy sexually-abused step-mom didn't get their ******* **** together enough to give him a solid, cohesive childhood.
> ALL the other retarded, full-of-themselves, self-pitying 40-50-and-60 somethings crippled this country, and then firmly stand in the way of OUR generation (their children), the ones who are gonna have to fix it / live in it. I'm gettin' reeeeeeeeal tired of this, in particular.

So, my little bro's gonna get out in two years, his anger extinguished by the grinding tedium of the Service, and if he still has enough of himself intact (which he will), I will network him right the **** into the software industry, with the rest of us siblings.

He can join us and hit the ground running in a well-paying, 'proper' career, and we will all finally leave this retarded *********** , self doubting, miserable dead-end life behind at full speed

(Sorry for the rant. After the wedding tonight, this **** is really weighing on my mind)
User avatar #186 to #125 - totallytito ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
That was a great read.
I empathize with you and wish you the best on your goal.
#31 to #4 - jdrinfantry (12/25/2015) [-]
I hope I'm not alone when I say this, but I think it is safe to say that I served as much as a soldier can, in one lifetime at least (with my 3 deployments, and one in particular being an infantryman in Helmand). I have more friends in Valhalla than I'd like to remember.

The values I learned through the hardship I endured in the military is worth more than anything in the world. I wouldn't trade my experiences or sense of pride and duty for anything.

I get by, and the values I learned I will teach my kids. We will always stay strong.
I don't care about what house I live in, or what kind of chow I eat. In the end, I can survive with less.
User avatar #35 to #31 - totallytito ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
And that is very noble of you my friend,
I just wish the government treated you better, or if at the very least more people went to war to fight for what the believed in.

At the very least, those reserve soldiers should be able to accept or decline the proposition to return to the military if requested.
User avatar #38 to #35 - jdrinfantry (12/25/2015) [-]
Thank you,
The only thing I could really wish for is better veteran policies.
One veteran kills himself every hour.
I know times can be hard for reservists, or soldiers on active duty, but they will get by.

#134 to #38 - swagbot ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Okay, jdr..... sorry, but, something isn't right here. I'm gonna rant for a bit.

After years and years of seeing the **** you have, the best you can come up with is "I know times can be hard for reservists, or soldiers on active duty, but they will get by." Lol WhAt?

So, i get the feeling from your comment that your time in the military was a sort of 'personal self journey' (as it definitely is for my little bro right now).... Okay fine, we all need personal journeys to sort stuff out.

.... but for the everloving love of ******* God.... do not ******* kid yourself that you are going in there to 'protect' anyone.

All Wars Are Bankers' Wars WATCH IT.

Unlike y'all, i got beat around enough as a kid where I didn't feel the need to go seeking out that 'discipline' in the military. Like.... seriously beat. And ********** . Harder probably than 95+% of kids in the U.S.

A blessing? A curse? Who cares - Not the point.

The point is I got / am getting ****** , as are YOU, YOUR army bros, my little bro, my siblings, YOUR siblings, and everyone else who has been raised in the perverted world created by our parents, grandparents, and farther back.

So, we are all little spergs, the food is **** , we're all poisoned, we're all bored to tears for 12 years at school, put on child-medication, we're sold sex and candy and raised by TVs our whole lives, then when we graduate, there are NO JOBS.... and then, in order to make a pitiful salary, we are rounded up and sent to shoot Brown People (for unknown reasons) in a random dry ********* country on the other side of the world.

Sorry, but once upon i time, I was a "Republican". I got all weepy-feeling around images like Comment #31.... but after sobering up, growing up, and stopping my self-masturbatory indulgence in that drama, I now just mentally gag when i see pictures like that.

I'm supposed to feel sorry for some dude.... who put himself in the middle of a warzone... shooting at people he didn't even know are real threats?

He didn't have to be there. Why am I supposed to feel sorry for this boob who went and got his leg blown off?


Well.... i DO feel sorry for him.... but not because he was hit by a bomb per-se....

I'm sorry for him because he did not have the insight and inspiration to vanquish the idiocy he was stepped in during his childhood. He was deceived his whole life, and he only (maybe) learned his lesson when the stakes had been raised so high, that the price of that lesson was severe mutilation, instead of the less-painful lessons his parents could've imparted to his as a kid.

I feel sadness and pity watching this spectacle of just.......... unthinkable idiocy....... like watching a bunch of sad, angry man-babies having baby-fits with M4s, instead of rattles.

But did he learn his lesson after all? It leaves me feeling a *little* bit hopeless that this dork is so deluded (after ALL the **** he'd gone through, and ALL the **** he'd seen), that he'd put a melodramatic tattoo on his body, self-adulating his fake "sacrifice".

Sorry for sounding like such a dick, but do you see where I'm coming from?

How bout y'all just..... NOT.... go and shoot brown people.... maybe stay here is the country and arrest the people who were the high-level architects of all your misery in your childhood (that Pain, Boredom, and Anger which you went into the military to exorcise) ?

Is shooting brown people, cleaning latrines (for the kicks of these little shouting marching pin-dick career-men), marching, saluting, doing unnecessary maintenance on your Humvee day after day after day, or guarding the Afghan poppy fields gonna fix the economy back home?

No.

So stop kidding yourselves.
User avatar #144 to #134 - jdrinfantry (12/25/2015) [-]
that was some ranting there Swagbot. I read it all, even watched the (In my opinion) rather edgy movie by Michael Rivero
You seem to have taken notice of me throughout the years, and I'm sorry that the things I post and try to share, are not to your liking. I actually put some effort into finding pictures from the war and the story behind it, to try and show you some real stories.
Like Kyle Hockenberry in the picture in comment #31.
I am sorry for what happened to Kyle. It's a shame that you are not.
Perhaps Kyle didn't have to be there... The same could be said about the family that was involved in a car crash on the highway the other day; do I feel sorry for them too? Of course I do.

I'm not going to call you out, because if you have taken notice of me before, you know where I stand and what I believe in.

Basic Training is a very small part of my total service in the military, and that is the only time I remember strict discipline, by superiors. After that, you learn self discipline.

We're not going over to "shoot brown people". I think you know that, but you're just trying to start an argument.

I actually understand your point of view and all, although most of it I strongly disagree with. I think you should come with me to the VA, and the many cemeteries where my brothers lie, and see the widows and orphans and tell your rant to them.
Look them in the eye and tell them that you think the picture of their little son, husband or father made you gag.

Listen Swagbot, you have your opinion about how the military should be used, but you sure as **** have a weird way of expressing your feelings for those who gave their life, even if it be in vain.

Anyhow, it's Christmas and I actually wish you the best.
#216 to #144 - swagbot ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
********************** .

I'll respond later.
User avatar #217 to #216 - jdrinfantry (12/26/2015) [-]
Pls don't give me another book of edgy antisemitic **** from Michael Rivero.
#218 to #217 - swagbot ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
What. The **** .

1) What the hell about that video is 'anti-jewish'?

I don't think the narrator even said the words 'Jew' or 'Jewish' once! He talked about Banks and geopolitics the whole time!

Regardless, even if he did call the Zionist Jews out on their shenanigans (which are many, heinous, and documented)... Learn some real history, you sad little republican cuck-boy: /pol/ isn't right about everything, but there is far more to WW2 than your 'quality' public schooling explained - you should already be highly skeptical of what we were taught just by the holes and inconsistencies in our material.

(At least *I* was skeptical - I'm seriously questioning your level of brain power right about now).

2) How could this video even be considered "edgy"?

AWABW practically sounds like a dry college lecture. Up until the very end, there wasn't even any commentary... which is the only part of a video that can be considered 'edgy'.

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But wait, I remember discussions like this in the past between us.

I remember that you are so wedded to your pathetic little enshrined wave-a-flag, wear-a-ribbon, pro-military beliefs (as I once was too), that short of a few highly specific, traumatic, moving events, nothing will break that coating on you.

Investigation first requires doubt and questioning, which is turn requires thinking, and i can already see you're not big on that whole 'thinking' thing.


I guess raging about this is a huge waste of time on my part.... I'm just of one really terrifying aspect of this disagreement:

You and me... our existence is incompatible on this Earth.

It's people like you (and your probably-idiot family too) who breed and breed and breed, making these little family villages of idiots.... who then get conscripted to become the armies of these monstrous rulers... who then enter the towns of people who I consider to be friends, and destroy them... and then you buy into your own tale about how 'you were under attack', so that you feel no remorse about it.

And one day, unless I decide to lobotomize myself and become one of you, you and your idiot legions will come for me, and I'm gonna have to deal with you somehow.

See why you idiocy is so dangerous? See why I'm so pissed off about this?
User avatar #220 to #218 - jdrinfantry (12/26/2015) [-]
Also You will be pleased to hear I dont have any kids, and not much of a family either.
#221 to #220 - swagbot ONLINE (12/27/2015) [-]
Ugh... i was gonna write a harsh comment, but it just feels wrong.

It's like screaming at a retarded kid that they're doing something that they don't even know is wrong.

I'll just say this, in case there's any functioning hardware left anywhere within your skull-case:

> Get some big, awesome goals (things that help out the world, and aren't based on the inbred, corrupt systems already around us).
> Start trying to execute on them.
> See how ****** up the world is.
> Go through the experiences which will lead you through depths of sadness, anger, depression, etc.
> Use those lessons to grow up.
> Then I hope, someday on the battlefield, we meet as friends, not with me exterminating you like a roach because you decided to give up your individuality and morality (yes, morality - remember, you're fighting so people can make money off of you, not to 'defend the nation' from any real threat - that's not 'moral' or 'patriotic' or 'grown-up', no matter how much you try to convince yourself it is) for the sake of a uniform and some cheap creature-comforts.

I got nothing more to say.
User avatar #222 to #221 - jdrinfantry (12/27/2015) [-]
go **** yourself.
If you want to face me, send me a private message i'll tell you where you can get that chance, but you should say your farewells because I dont fight for fun, I fight to kill.

You dont know one little bit about me or what i've done, yet you claim to be better than ME?! At something I excell at
#223 to #222 - swagbot ONLINE (12/27/2015) [-]
Okay, I'm falling into a really bad habit here - I'm relentlessly bombarding someone with a mean, high-intensity argument, and then trying to get a point across at the same time.... all while being a gigantic dick and saying lots of mean stuff. It's something i picked up from my Dad.

I'm done here. Sorry.
User avatar #224 to #223 - jdrinfantry (12/27/2015) [-]
You should work on that. man. I'm not the enemy, I'm not responsible for the geopolitics run by a country just because of what I do for a living.

I take full responsibility for what I've done, but not for something I am clueless of.
In the beginning I somewhat agree with what you were saying, but you turn it around and start being a dick as if you're not even reading what I write, or at least sorting heavily in it.

But never ******* threaten me. It should be beneath you.
User avatar #219 to #218 - jdrinfantry (12/26/2015) [-]
you're not being the least vit skeptical towards Michael Riveros claims of ww1 being about banks?

I dont buy it man, your rude attitude don't change that. it just makes you appear untrustworthy.
You're also trying to stereotype me, like saying im lobotomized! The **** kind of talk is that? Learn some manners. You believe in conspiracy theories; open to public knowledge.

Be more skeptical please, and stop ranting like a pissed off madman, there's not a single soul on this side that would believe you.
User avatar #79 to #35 - sgtmajjohnson ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Sorry, tito, but that last part's a terrible idea. The government can't be paying people who might come back to service if they want to, and a lot of military policy is based upon numbers of available troops. They can't say, "Oh, we may have 160,000 reservists available, if they want to show up" when deciding what actions to take.
#36 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
No.

The Thirteenth Amendment
Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
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User avatar #51 to #36 - thesunpraiser (12/25/2015) [-]
No one said it was American babies.
User avatar #115 to #51 - iamthepapercut ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
This is actaully trump's solution to anchor babies. Get ready guys
#103 - legenditals (12/25/2015) [-]
Let me hit you with some knowledge.



Abortion should be legal because if it's illegal across the board, that causes too many problems. Mainly, if it's illegal it won't allow those who need it in a medical situation (ie; mother dies, infant will die, infant will be forced to be brought to a full term despite us knowing it's going to die, or back-alley abortions will **** up many people everywhere)
Abortion shouldn't be legalized so people can dump off babys in dumpsters like yesterdays unfinished mcdonalds, it needs to be legalized so people who legitimately need it, have it as an option.
#192 to #103 - tobistrigoivii (12/25/2015) [-]
GIF
**tobistrigoivii used "*roll picture*"**
**tobistrigoivii rolled image** I agree. Also, outlawing abortions makes conservatives think they have the right to cut planned parenthood's funding. Kind of like a take a little, take all supposition. "Alright, boys. Murder is officially illegal. Now let's kill everyone so no one can murder ever again!" We see the height of human stupidity after shootings. People were calling the planned parenthood shootings positive and their perpetrators heroes. They cited that in the shooter taking lives he was preventing abortions. You know, because planned parenthood has women in it seeking abortions 24/7/365. Pay no mind to the other services planned parenthood provides. Cause ya know, all planned parenthood consists of is a waiting room and a bottomless pit where women open their vaginas and drop the babies in a la 300. THIS IS SPARTA
#180 - ehwaz (12/25/2015) [-]
Am I the ONLY one that thought about this when the word gladiators was used?
User avatar #153 - boxdweller (12/25/2015) [-]
I'm not pro-life.
I'm pro-honour-and-glory-through-death-in-the-arena.
#139 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
well the way usa is going , it wont be too long before they start raising babies as the future of the military

people who sign up as adults end up asking too many questions or deserting.... but raise them from babies to be obedient soldiers who exist only to obey orders... thats what usa wants
User avatar #141 to #139 - notsofriendly (12/25/2015) [-]
Are you the Institute?



MAXSON WE GOT A LIVE ONE HERE!!!
User avatar #143 to #139 - qnamanmanga (12/25/2015) [-]
Well, that would be immoral, but definietly efficient.
#151 to #139 - mastercolossus (12/25/2015) [-]
except that only about 800 military personnel have deserted this year compared to how large it is its negligible...
#124 - aejann ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
See this flower here? They're called tansies, and if a pregnant woman ate a handful of these buttons within the first trimester, she would have a miscarriage. Too many, and the plant would kill her as well. Abortion is not a new phenomenon; it's existed for centuries in various forms, because not wanting a child has existed just as long. People are creative, and when they want something, they'll get it, even if it hurts themselves. When there's a safe alternative, it should be provided, not restricted, so women who can't support a child won't have to resort to wildflowers and wire hangars.
User avatar #170 to #124 - cognosceteipsum ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Are those what are used to create pennyroyal tea?
User avatar #61 - bakinboy (12/25/2015) [-]
im not pro choice
im anti-baby
#7 - newprinny (12/24/2015) [-]
I'm a little conflicted on abortion, dood. I find the act disgusting and barbaric, but at the same time I imagine forcing a child to live a horrible life with people that wanted to murder them or live in poverty is just as bad. Also there's pregnancies that could result in the mother's death or babies conceived from rape and it's also bad to force a woman to live (or die) with either of those, too.
#18 to #7 - anon (12/24/2015) [-]
It's not "just as bad," but it is a damn good beginning argument.

While I disagree with the concept of Gladiators.... Children of the State, would be a good... "standing army" concept.
User avatar #82 to #18 - sgtmajjohnson ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Yeah, because why not enslave children to a life of military service? There's no way having an army of conscripts raised from birth and forced into service instead of volunteers from amongst the regular population could backfire. For one, it creates a huge divide between civilian populace and military; it also forces children to fight armed conflicts without their consent; finally, using what are essentially slaves with total indoctrination would create an armed force with a dangerous level of obedience.
#30 to #7 - lordofhell (12/25/2015) [-]
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#15 to #7 - anon (12/24/2015) [-]
Abortions are as reprehensible as masturbating until ejaculation or having an egg that doesn't get fertilised. It's the same waste.
#19 to #15 - newprinny (12/24/2015) [-]
Right, because natural body processes that shed one half of the genetic material necessary to create a human being and paying a doctor to forcibly remove the fertilized and already developing combination of the two are totally the same thing, dood.
I understand why it's necessary, I understand why people feel it's the only option for them, and I understand that the alternatives are often just as bad or worse than death before they're given a chance at life, but I can't bring myself to say that for me it's morally acceptable. I will not force another person to carry a baby they have no ability or intention to raise properly, but I can not also excuse it morally.
#17 to #15 - anon (12/24/2015) [-]
Shut up, Catholic
#6 - anon (12/24/2015) [-]
User avatar #80 to #6 - sgtmajjohnson ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Doesn't want to support some woman's six kids with tax money while she doesn't work, but also doesn't want her to kill them. Really not that hard to reconcile. Condoms and birth control are a hell of a lot cheaper than abortions, so why can't women who get abortions have used them instead? It's more like, "doesn't want to tolerate what some view as murder, but also doesn't want to pay thousands for someone else's stupidity and irresponsible behavior."
User avatar #104 to #80 - hoponthefeelstrain (12/25/2015) [-]
1. most times they do and that fails
2. the south, where abortion is most protested against, teaches abstinence only so these women don't know about birth control and condoms.
3. do you really think women who can't afford b/c and condoms go and sign up for abortions and pay out the ass for them? Most abortions are pregnancies they happened on accident. It's not being used as a first line of defense.
User avatar #111 to #104 - sgtmajjohnson ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Except abortion occurs more in the wealthy Northern states than in the poverty-stricken Southern states. In fact, Mississippi, the poorest state, has the lowest rate of abortions (one in 18 pregnancies) compared with New York's one in 2.3 and the national average of one in four. Do you really think that most people who get abortions use birth control? Because I'm sorry, but that is straight up ******** . The failure rate on condoms is low enough that you would on average get pregnant once every thirty years using them (and that's from people who self-report using condoms regularly, not from actual studies on the subject). Keep in mind that one in four pregnancies end in abortion; over 1.2 million per year. What you've said is simply untrue. Women who are married or living with a partner account for 43% of abortions. Also, 48% of all women who get abortions annually have had one or more prior abortions, so don't tell me it's always a single slip up. Over 60% of people who get abortions have already have live births (15% of which had 3 or more live children). Also, fewer than 1% of all people who get abortions report ever having been raped, and fewer than 10% cite ANY health concerns (which could include simple pain) as a reason for getting an abortion. The reality is that most abortions are not desperate acts of poverty stricken single mothers, but rather the removal of an inconvenience from someone's life.
User avatar #113 to #111 - hoponthefeelstrain (12/25/2015) [-]
Because mississippi only has one clinic in the whole state. And new york has a much bigger population. Condoms are effective when used properly, and if the woman is on birth control they probably don't use condoms. Birth control is easy to **** up because you have to take the pill at the same time every day.

And what's the difference between the condom working and the woman getting an abortion? They're never allowed past the 3rd trimester and before then the fetus is hardly developed, but either way it's never born and doesn't exist. So what's the difference?
User avatar #116 to #113 - sgtmajjohnson ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
It's abortion rate I'm comparing; population is completely irrelevant. Notice how it's taken as a ratio of pregnancies to abortions. What do you mean it doesn't exist? It's composed of matter, is it not? Again, if they **** up their birth control, it's no one else's responsibility to pay for their rampant stupidity. Did you see the stat that nearly half of all annual abortions are from women who have already had at least one? Consecutive ******* are especially hard to sympathize with. Do you know what the third trimester is? A trimester is 12 weeks, three trimesters is nearly 9 months, aka THE ENTIRE GESTATION period of a human fetus. Not allowing them "past the third trimester" means not killing them after birth. Please, at least learn what these terms are before you post.
User avatar #118 to #116 - hoponthefeelstrain (12/25/2015) [-]
okay correct my terms all you want, after the second trimester abortions are almost never performed. Maybe the other children weren't **** ups. And you can go by number of pregnancies but in a bigger population there are bound to be more pregnancies.
User avatar #119 to #118 - sgtmajjohnson ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
No, we're not talking about prior children; nearly half of them had prior ABORTIONS, unless you're saying they intentionally conceived a child, then aborted it. Okay, I'm gonna explain rates real quick here: the number of pregnancies is just as irrelevant as the population. What matters is the ratio of abortions to pregnancies. In Mississippi, one in 18 pregnancies ends in abortion. In New York, it's one in 2.3. You divide the number of pregnancies by the number of abortions, the actual quantity of pregnancies does not matter. Correct your terminology? What your statement said is "they never allow you to perform post birth abortions." Two trimesters is still six months of pregnancy, the fetus is not "hardly developed;" it could possibly survive outside the womb in a NICU at 5 months. Please, just read my comments and your own sources before you reply.
#24 - Stevethewizard (12/25/2015) [-]
I'm kind of conflicted about it.
On the plus side, it kills babies that nobody really wanted anyway.
On the downside, it gives women a choice of what happens with their bodies, and we can't even trust them to vote the right way.
Before anyone freaks out and calls "edgelord", it's a ******* joke.
#92 to #24 - anon (12/25/2015) [-]
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Nice extention of an old 4chan joke, you unoriginal autist.
User avatar #102 to #92 - ilovehitler (12/25/2015) [-]
Mate, this whole website is filled to the brim with content that's already been posted and comments already been commented.
User avatar #205 to #24 - tsoper (12/25/2015) [-]
theyll all vote for Hillary just because shes a woman
#120 - foodyquest (12/25/2015) [-]
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User avatar #87 - ecowolfrb (12/25/2015) [-]
I mean it's not like fetuses have a lot going on mentally when they're aborted. It's arguable that dogs and cats are of higher intelligence when hordes of them are euthanized every year. What makes it any more OK to do that, the fact that we're a human parasite instead of a dog/cat?

I really ******* dislike kids
#46 - winddemon (12/25/2015) [-]
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User avatar #175 - askafj (12/25/2015) [-]
Best (maybe only) argument I've seen from a pro-life person.
#131 - whatwhen (12/25/2015) [-]
GIF
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