She was charged and sent to a bail hearing to see if she should get bail and how much it should be worth.
She was rude to him so he posted her bail value at $10,000
She swore at him which is an offence called contempt of court and thats how she got the jail time.
Ive learned that I can't speak for American law on here so I'll just point out that this explanation is based off Canadian Law but the USA is likely similar
How? It's quite a simple thing, men have to send some piece of paper in the mail when they turn 18 and if a draft is called they may be forcefully put in the military. Was the dude an idiot or something?
You lose a ton of things that are basically required for a normal life. Technically it's not forced, but it's like school: you don't have to go to it, but you have to in order to get a job, make money, etc.
Men who do not register could be prosecuted and, if convicted, fined up to $250,000 and/or serve up to five years in prison. In addition, men who fail to register with Selective Service before turning age 26, even if not prosecuted, will become ineligible for:
Student Financial Aid - including Pell Grants, College Work Study, Guaranteed Student/Plus Loans, and National Direct Student Loans.
U.S. Citizenship - if the man first arrived in the U.S. before his 26th birthday.
Federal Job Training - The Job Training Partnership Act (JTPA) offers programs that can train young men for jobs in auto mechanics and other skills. This program is only open to those men who register with Selective Service.
Federal Jobs - men born after December 31, 1959 must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the Executive Branch of the Federal government and the U.S. Postal Service.
In addition, several states have added additional penalties for those who fail to register.
" In practice, no one has been prosecuted for failure to comply with draft registration since 1986" - www.scn.org/ip/sdmcc/register.htm
I have never registered, I still continued to receive federal money(for college), I had no issues with any work, jobs, law enforcement agencies, etc. While it is a federal law, it is not enforced by ANYONE. I've never been told I needed to register by my school when I was in high school or college, I've never been approached by a recruiter, I've never received a phone call and it has had literally no impact on mine nor anyone I've ever known nor met's life to my knowledge.
To be frank, it's an unenforced and unenforceable law that no one in the states takes serious.
No one in my high school outside to my knowledge signed up for it.
In fact I've never actually met ANYONE who's signed up for the draft, outside of a very small number of ROTC people who planned to go into the army anyways and I have discussed it with numerous people. And as I stated, right in the comment you're responded to, No one has been prosecuted for failure to comply with draft registration since 1986. It has no affect on Financial Aid, either.
first time i heard about the selective service was when i was signing under the dotted line. other than that, i've yet to meet a civilian who registered for the ss. most people don't even know about it.
If you don't sign up for the draft you can't get a federal job. Sometimes you can't get a passport and will be declined student loans. You can also be declined from government aid if you haven't signed up which includes FAFSA. I'm pretty sure if a draft ever did happen and you haven't signed up there'd be real consequences like jail time but as for now it's like you said, not enforced.
At least here in Aus you do, school is compulsory between the ages of 6 and 15. And parents can get in trouble if their child is not enrolled or attending school. I know its the same/similar in the UK. i assumed it would be in every 1st world country. (obvious exceptions are being homeschooled, not sure what the laws are there)
I am well aware of that, im just saying i would assume that the laws would at least be very similar, i knew US education was brilliant but id at least expect primary-majority of high school be mandatory.
The US and the rest of the world are quite, quite different from one another.
Also, US education is brilliant? Is it really that bad in Australia? To think that anywhere in the Western world could be worse than the US is pretty unfortunate.
That's a relief... we spend our time learning about English literature for 4 years, art for at least a year, and other classes equally as useless. I kind of wish we actually learned about philosophy. The only touch I got of it was in my Intro to Law class, a class not really even about philosophy and also an optional course.
Nothing. I didn't send jack and I was already put into the Selective Service System. They signed me up for the draft without my consent. I'm not mad since I joined the military, but I found it rather odd that they signed me up for the draft without my knowledge.
i don't remember exactly but i think i got something wrong or something. an honest mistake actually, but it turned into a chain of around 20 comments and a sea of red thumbs for everyone included
Damn, that sucks. As long as you weren't being the guy who says that Canada or whatever country is better than the US (something really hard to measure and prove, whether it be US is the one on top or not), I think it was just a bunch of assholes being themselves.
Not exactly.
I'm in school to become a police officer so that's where my legal knowledge comes from.
Knowing about the law makes me get into lots of legal debates on here.
But I dont think I've ever talked about nudity, or public indecency
"civilized society" is really just another line for "keeping everyone in line with the iron fist of force". D, and D. The only difference in Democracy and Despotism is the other letters.
I feel like you guys don't even understand the problem here in the least bit.
It's like saying those who insult the king are to be beheaded.
It's a frivolous and petty exercise of authority that has nothing to do with justice and shouldn't have anything to do with the law.
Especially when the law is not always just.
You people have no understanding of principle.
No I agree that it's silly. But you're making it out to be some kind of oppression thing when I think it's an issue of giving the judge too much power behind his/her emotions. It's about respect, not silencing anybody. However you shouldn't be legally required to show respect.
We're agreed. My point was more along the lines of: "Is this really a world with political correctness laws?" I'm also not a fan of respect, at least conceptually. I don't see why any of us have any obligations towards strangers. Ultimately, respect is something you choose to give of your free will. Not as you say, something required by law.
I mean you SHOULD respect the judge. But I think making laws to that point is thought policing. I know in court I would respect the judge, but I respect the rights of others to do as they wish to do.
Contempt of court is when you do generally disrespectful or disobedient **** in court. She basically told the judge to go **** himself, so he reminded her who was in charge
In the U.S. you only have to pay 10% to make bail, so it was really only $1000 if that's where this was, which he said "county" jail and it was all in english so I assume it was.
Criminal Contempt is a serious charge and a serious matter. Courts are places where you are expected to behave like an adult, and intentionally disrupting courtrooms is a tactic used in order to prevent an effective trial.
Judges are typically extremely experienced lawyers who are directly appointed and monitored by the state. While technically you "are their bitch" they still have to have consensus from a jury of peers for any serious sentencing, and anything can be overturned directly by the state if the conviction was improper.
so your saying its okay that your the judges bitch.
do i have to look up sources of all the **** judges in the U.S., whom certainly are not above the average non-retarded citizen in any mental way?
I'm saying that you're not the judges bitch because if they do anything improper the sentence can simply be overturned and another court will be found, or you can appeal your case to a higher-level court.
It's a criminal court, not a frat house. Insulting, cussing out, or breaking protocol wastes court time, and you are very specifically told not to do so.
It is JUST basic intelligence!
You would not kick a dog in a the nuts and bitch about getting bit
You would not be rude to a cop and wonder why he kept writing you tickets
you wouldn't annoy a guy 5x your size and wonder why you got your ass kicked
This guy is a judge, and he can either get you off easy, give you what the standard says or make an example out of you!
This is not a classroom and he is no sub, if a bunch of ******* kids are coming through kicking up a fuss, he can, and has the right to, Make an example in order to teach her, and everyone else a lesson.
Just saying, Betcha the Next guy or girl in line showed some respect!
**johrai used "*roll picture*"** **johrai rolled image**I disagree. Firstly, he warned her twice about taking it seriously, and she continued to giggle. Three strikes you're out. Secondly, she lied to him about not being high/drunk in ******* COURT! She later admitted to taking xanax and drinking alcohol the day she was in court.
Her overt attempt to get out of trouble, downplay the gravity of the crime, as well as blatant and honest disrespect for a court judge(such disrespect could be viewed and contempt for the entire legal system) deserved jail time. I'm sad that she got out of it, honestly, it would have done her good.
Firstly: Taking things seriously is not a crime. No matter how much of a twattwaffle you are you do not deserve jail. Maybe an asskicking, but not jail.
Second: It may be illegal to be high in some states. It is also illegal to be publicly drunk as well. Perjury is illegal as well. Here she did break a law, more than likely without knowing that her kidding around was uncalled for, but she deserves no more than a misdemeanor charge for it. As for your point about taking xanax and drinking alcohol the day she was in court; neither of these substances is illegal and as long as she can pass a sobriety test nothing illegal was done.
Basically the judge didn't like her and abused his power to put her in a way worse place than she already was. I agree that she didn't seem like a very good person but why in all ******* hell does that constitute putting her in prison and furthering the problem. This sentence will do nothing but **** every future attempt that she makes to better herself.
Oh I do believe!
this HOPEFULLY taught that little "rules dont apply to me" cunt a big ******* lesson.
Just cus you have a pussy DOES NOT mean you can do whatever the **** you want asshole!
You have an ABSOLUTE misunderstanding of how the worlds justice system works!
It is EXACTLY his ******* problem to "teach people a lesson" who dont abide by the law and do stupid **** that ***** with others.
If you are in a court room where its YOUR ******* court case, you better take that **** seriously and dont treat everyone like another dickbrain asshole at the club. you are probably one of those assholes who has an acab poster somewhere in your room or if youre old enough tattooed somewhere
Sure take it seriously but regardless she's getting tried for whatever crime she commited, not her attitude. That's her problem if she wants to have a ****** personality. Doesn't mean she should get extra sentence for it.
Of course she is also getting tried for her attitude aswell!
Shes getting punished for a crime she committed, but her attitude towards the crime and the people setting her straight is actually more important than the crime itself.
If he let her just walk out of there being that little bitch she was without punishing her for it, she would have thought its all a joke and done a few hours of community service and keep on doing the stupid **** she got in trouble for in the first place. NOTHING would have changed. But also getting punished for her attitude towards the matter taught her one of the most valuable lessons of her life, to not **** on people and take **** seriously.
if you see the video of her AFTER the 30 days in jail you would understand that that punishment was ******* KEY in setting her ass straight!
She will from now on be more polite, take **** seriously and stop being a ******* arrogant cunt altogether.
if what you say were the case then people could go into the court room flinging their own **** , jerking off infront of people, only talking in curse words and nobody could do anything about their behavior because thats not what they are being tried for.
Think before you speak.
he wanted her to leave at first when he said it then she thought she was being clever and he made her come back.he said adios the first time to throw it back in her face,then she said **** you so he made her come back and sent her off saying adios,throwing it in her face again.
It is in a courthouse. It's called "being in contempt of the court." Google what I put in the quotation marks and the specific word "disrespectful" is used in the sample paragraph of the first result.
Courts are generally tied up enough dealing with assholes as it is, how much longer do you think it would take to try cases if they were allowed to be assholes in court?
Someone gets belligerent and they get a time-out to think about their behaviour while the court moves on and deals with the people who aren't going to behave like assholes and hold the whole system up.
Contempt of court is a crime she committed.
It's there so the accused isn't allowed to sit there with their fingers in their ears, screaming "la la la I can't hear you" the entire time, preventing the court from taking place.
Except it totally is when you're in court. Contempt of court is the crime of misconduct or disrespectful behavior in court or towards officers of the court, which includes the judge. Especially the judge, considering he/she is the one who judges (ha!) whether or not your conduct is bad enough to be considered "contempt of court". She should've taken the whole situation more seriously and acted with more decorum. She didn't and got what she deserved.
Yes, great justice, you laugh and say adios, and bam, your bail doubles. You get angry, say something stupid, and you need to serve 30 days. I'm surprised that there didn't pop up 10 cops to throw her on the ground and kneel on her back.
American "justice" is funny to look at from the outside, but damn am I glad that I don't live in the "land of the free", where judges and cops can act out whatever emotion they feel like.
Young people get criminal charges dropped because 'they are too rich to understand how their actions would have consequences' in certain situations. Like robbery, rape, and drunken driving. And people die in those events.
the unedited vid is even...better ..she acts like complete retarded more pig like animal as a human being, stupid bitch understands nothing if u dont wildly put out gestures to her..some people are definetly one step lower on the letter of evolution...