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closotezuka (09/27/2015) [-] I mean, think about how people who think this are exactly. Sure, those are negative traits and stuff, but there's more to people than just cooking, refusing to talk with their friends, or not bothering with personal appearance. They could be funny, enjoy the same things as you, there's still plenty of reasons to like someone like that, relationships aren't just benefits or possessions.
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infinitereaper (09/28/2015) [-] Are you implying that mutual relationships based on common interests and genuine love actually exist? for most people
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batmanbeyonddgrave ONLINE (09/28/2015) [-] yo, my ex girl-friend was just like this, it's not necessarily purely these things, but also what comes a long with them, that makes them absolutely deplorable to be around
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greyhoundfd (09/28/2015) [-] >Won't cook
Yeah, sure, but that shouldn't be important unless it specifically comes up
>Won't do chores
Okay, so am I supposed to do everything, including work for money? Literally the only thing I get out of that relationship is sex and conversation then, which I could get more cheaply from a prostitute
>Won't hang out with friends
This means that now I would have to choose between having friends and spending time with my partner.
>Won't conform with societies "sexist standards"
So she's not going to shave her legs or any other things associated with feminine beauty. Also, this is a red flag because she's probably a feminista, and maybe she'll "revoke consent" in the middle of sex.
So we have a relationship where I would be cooking, maintaining the house, acting as the primary breadwinner, constantly being in arguments about how I'm "spending too much time with friends instead of her"/constantly being in arguments with friends about how "I should spend more time with them", and if I have sex with her I run the risk of a rape charge and being thrown in jail.
That isn't a relationship, that's a case study on emotional abuse in domestic relationships.
Yeah, sure, but that shouldn't be important unless it specifically comes up
>Won't do chores
Okay, so am I supposed to do everything, including work for money? Literally the only thing I get out of that relationship is sex and conversation then, which I could get more cheaply from a prostitute
>Won't hang out with friends
This means that now I would have to choose between having friends and spending time with my partner.
>Won't conform with societies "sexist standards"
So she's not going to shave her legs or any other things associated with feminine beauty. Also, this is a red flag because she's probably a feminista, and maybe she'll "revoke consent" in the middle of sex.
So we have a relationship where I would be cooking, maintaining the house, acting as the primary breadwinner, constantly being in arguments about how I'm "spending too much time with friends instead of her"/constantly being in arguments with friends about how "I should spend more time with them", and if I have sex with her I run the risk of a rape charge and being thrown in jail.
That isn't a relationship, that's a case study on emotional abuse in domestic relationships.
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epicalania ONLINE (09/28/2015) [-] Don't cook? Das bad, both should help with necessities, unless the situation favours one person doing something, such as one full time worker, the other should do more housework and cookery, both should still help.
Don't want kids? That's a fair choice, doesn't need to be said unless the conversation comes to it, or if you're considering a more committed relationship
That's just assumptive and rude. She has no way of knowing his friends are jerks, if they are then after she's met them thats one thing, but at what this stage is implied to be its rude.
Who cares about societies standards? She should match her own and his should also be included because thats how you attract him, if he thinks you're ugly as **** he wouldn't **** you with a dildo on a stick pick related
Don't want kids? That's a fair choice, doesn't need to be said unless the conversation comes to it, or if you're considering a more committed relationship
That's just assumptive and rude. She has no way of knowing his friends are jerks, if they are then after she's met them thats one thing, but at what this stage is implied to be its rude.
Who cares about societies standards? She should match her own and his should also be included because thats how you attract him, if he thinks you're ugly as **** he wouldn't **** you with a dildo on a stick pick related
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whiteoverblue (09/27/2015) [-] I'm sorry, but I wouldn't marry someone like that. If it means not having children, if it means choosing between she and my friends, if it means having an ugly, lazy wife, and on top of all that, if it means becoming her possession, then I would much rather be single.
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iridium (09/27/2015) [-] >I'm not going to cook or make sandwiches
Homemade sandwiches usually suck, but that first one is dumb. I'm not a chef but I know how to cook meat on the stove and whip something up. Eating out every day is impractical and expecting me to be the only one to cook without offering some other assistance does not make for a mutual relationship.
>I don't want kids
Understandable, but some people do and so don't expect them to be compatible.
>I don't want to do chores
Except everyone who lives in a house should contribute some damn chores. It's how that **** works.
>I won't hang out with your jerk friends
You don't have to. As long as you don't become a clingy bitch who doesn't let me hang with them, and you don't call them a jerk (seriously, that is not a word you just throw around with a serious tone) unless they are being an actual jerk.
>I'm not going to match society's sexist beauty standards
Here's the thing: visible attractiveness is the first thing that anyone will notice about you when looking for a partner to be in a relationship with. It's not essential to a relationship, but it is something that gets involved in a relationship. Now, where does she define "Sexist standards"? Both sexes have hygiene standards. And men have grooming standards and not only do they have standard attire, but they have far less versatile attire than women do. Google "professional businesswoman", those meet the standards for clothing of women, is that sexist now?
The fact that she says **** like "your jerk friends" and "I'm not going to do chores" is just being a bitch. There are far better ways you could, at the least, reword those.
Homemade sandwiches usually suck, but that first one is dumb. I'm not a chef but I know how to cook meat on the stove and whip something up. Eating out every day is impractical and expecting me to be the only one to cook without offering some other assistance does not make for a mutual relationship.
>I don't want kids
Understandable, but some people do and so don't expect them to be compatible.
>I don't want to do chores
Except everyone who lives in a house should contribute some damn chores. It's how that **** works.
>I won't hang out with your jerk friends
You don't have to. As long as you don't become a clingy bitch who doesn't let me hang with them, and you don't call them a jerk (seriously, that is not a word you just throw around with a serious tone) unless they are being an actual jerk.
>I'm not going to match society's sexist beauty standards
Here's the thing: visible attractiveness is the first thing that anyone will notice about you when looking for a partner to be in a relationship with. It's not essential to a relationship, but it is something that gets involved in a relationship. Now, where does she define "Sexist standards"? Both sexes have hygiene standards. And men have grooming standards and not only do they have standard attire, but they have far less versatile attire than women do. Google "professional businesswoman", those meet the standards for clothing of women, is that sexist now?
The fact that she says **** like "your jerk friends" and "I'm not going to do chores" is just being a bitch. There are far better ways you could, at the least, reword those.
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seniorawesomesauce ONLINE (09/27/2015) [-] Well gadzooks fellers if it isn't the old crew
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heartlessrobot (09/27/2015) [-] That's fine with dating. But marriage is a job. Both people have to carry their own weight or it's doomed to failure.
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commontroll (09/27/2015) [-] Typically if a woman's gonna bitch about these things then she's often a cunt. Now, if she says she's not a good cook, that's fine by me. But to refuse to do any work around the house means you're just selfish. I grew up with my mom doing that, and my dad and us kids had to do everything around the house, even after he got home from work. **** that, I'm not having any of that **** .
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huszti (09/27/2015) [-] a relationship with a person like that is not going to work out and because of that, just a waste of time.
panel 1: doing favors for each other is a significant part of a relationship. if you just go around forcing your bf to watch titanic with him even though he hates it and won't even watch a film he enjoys but you dont like your relationship is doomed.
panel 2: many men want kids, if you dont, you won't be desirable for them. also "i wont do any chores" literally translates to "i'm a lazy **** and you have to do everything, no matter what". this doesn't have any significant impact until you live together. at that point if you dont change your attitude, your relationship is ****** .
panel 3: if your s/o doesnt want to hang out with your friends, (s)he wont have similar interests as you, as you most likely share them with your friends, which is why you're friends in the first place.
panel 4: go be beautiful for your bf/gf. as a guy, shave yourself if she wants you to. as a grill, put on some sexy stuff, some makeup, whatever. lose weight if you need to. as mentioned earlier, do your significant other a favor, it'll make your relationship that much better. they'll notice you're putting some effort into yourself and your relationship. they wont necessarily mention it. they'll feel happier with you and you'll feel better about yourself too.
panel 1: doing favors for each other is a significant part of a relationship. if you just go around forcing your bf to watch titanic with him even though he hates it and won't even watch a film he enjoys but you dont like your relationship is doomed.
panel 2: many men want kids, if you dont, you won't be desirable for them. also "i wont do any chores" literally translates to "i'm a lazy **** and you have to do everything, no matter what". this doesn't have any significant impact until you live together. at that point if you dont change your attitude, your relationship is ****** .
panel 3: if your s/o doesnt want to hang out with your friends, (s)he wont have similar interests as you, as you most likely share them with your friends, which is why you're friends in the first place.
panel 4: go be beautiful for your bf/gf. as a guy, shave yourself if she wants you to. as a grill, put on some sexy stuff, some makeup, whatever. lose weight if you need to. as mentioned earlier, do your significant other a favor, it'll make your relationship that much better. they'll notice you're putting some effort into yourself and your relationship. they wont necessarily mention it. they'll feel happier with you and you'll feel better about yourself too.
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notafunnyguy (09/27/2015) [-]
Men and women are built differently and mentally wired differently. Alone we are strong but together the sexes are undefeatable. The brawn of a man and the nurture of a woman is what has led us as a species to where we are today.
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muffinssnuffims (09/27/2015) [-]
Yes, but people who complain about things like these (especially multiple of these things) tend to not have such other qualities either, because they tend to be the kind of stupid person who tries to claim that the post's qualities have no value AT ALL.
Most people who aren't pretty, good cooks, good with kids, etc. but ARE funny, or a sweetheart, or a good person, or enjoy the same things as you (or life in general) won't make that claim. They may think that certain qualities are nicer than other, but they aren't so pretentious or idiodic as to not see that looking good is still nice even if it's not the most important.
Most people who aren't pretty, good cooks, good with kids, etc. but ARE funny, or a sweetheart, or a good person, or enjoy the same things as you (or life in general) won't make that claim. They may think that certain qualities are nicer than other, but they aren't so pretentious or idiodic as to not see that looking good is still nice even if it's not the most important.
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anon (09/27/2015) [-]
As a man, I have duties to my wife as a husband, y'know, working to bring in an income, providing for, loving and protecting her, if she doesn't want to perform her duties to her husband as a wife, cooking, cleaning, taking care of the kids, (all of which I will be helping out with when I am not at work) then why the hell should I marry her? She is of no use to me, and I sure as hell ain't gonna let her be a parasite on my bank account, no matter how damn nice she is, you should be a nice person as default. **** your "sexism", if she's gona expect me to be a man and provide for her, then I'm going to expect her to be a woman and help me do that, i.e. manage the house and be a mother to my children. **** yo **** , feminism. *mic hits the floor with the force of a nokia*
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anon (09/27/2015) [-]
I think I get what you're saying, but your wife has no 'duties' to you.
Those things are just equal giving. She has no 'duty' to look after your kids or cook for you, just as you have no 'duty' to work for her.
It's called pulling your own weight.
The way you phrase it makes you sounds like you think you're living in the 40s.
My husband and I both work, we don't have kids, I do the cooking and we both typically tidy up after ourselves and I'll do the more major cleaning over the weekend.
So we have no kids and I work, that's not traditional, have I failed as a wife?
People in relationships should both offer something to the other and pull their own weight, it doesn't matter who does what but it's a problem when one is just leaching.
Plenty of men leach too, I've known several women who moan about husband won't get a job, just sits and plays WoW all day, or he makes excuses about 'if I worked I'd have to pay child support'.
Those things are just equal giving. She has no 'duty' to look after your kids or cook for you, just as you have no 'duty' to work for her.
It's called pulling your own weight.
The way you phrase it makes you sounds like you think you're living in the 40s.
My husband and I both work, we don't have kids, I do the cooking and we both typically tidy up after ourselves and I'll do the more major cleaning over the weekend.
So we have no kids and I work, that's not traditional, have I failed as a wife?
People in relationships should both offer something to the other and pull their own weight, it doesn't matter who does what but it's a problem when one is just leaching.
Plenty of men leach too, I've known several women who moan about husband won't get a job, just sits and plays WoW all day, or he makes excuses about 'if I worked I'd have to pay child support'.
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closotezuka (09/27/2015) [-] The entirety of "modern day feminism" isn't about being lazy and being parasites, it's about choosing not to conform to standards. These women could easily benefit you in other ways than the typical. You could do the housework and look after the kids while she gets a job. It's kind of medieval to just automatically assume the woman does womanly things.
Although, if she refuses to talk to your friends, that's just being a cunt
Although, if she refuses to talk to your friends, that's just being a cunt
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draylon (09/27/2015) [-] I disagree, and honestly, Modern Feminism is more a giant wave of "I don't want to do it" and "I want more.".
You are not bound by conformity, make your own path, noone really cares to be honest. Conformity doesn't Hold you back. Speaking quite honestly they are conforming to the anti conforming. if they really want to walk their own path they should just walk it.
it can be realized by asking, what does she gain by refusing to do these things?
Making someone else do it. and getting her way. thats it
For Me.
Panel 1: I cook myself and id rather do it myself unless she actually can cook.
Panel 2: I want Kids so thats a giant X most likely for Marrage Candidate, also refusing to do any chore is a major turn off, I HATE CLEANING UP AFTER OTHER PEOPLE.
Panel 3: You Refuse to associate with anyone I associate with? That's a Hell no, you're not even a friend moment.
Panel 4: I Hate to be the one to say it, but if she's not willing to put in any effort to get you, and can, then she probably doesn't care about you that much. And you should probably just walk away
You are not bound by conformity, make your own path, noone really cares to be honest. Conformity doesn't Hold you back. Speaking quite honestly they are conforming to the anti conforming. if they really want to walk their own path they should just walk it.
it can be realized by asking, what does she gain by refusing to do these things?
Making someone else do it. and getting her way. thats it
For Me.
Panel 1: I cook myself and id rather do it myself unless she actually can cook.
Panel 2: I want Kids so thats a giant X most likely for Marrage Candidate, also refusing to do any chore is a major turn off, I HATE CLEANING UP AFTER OTHER PEOPLE.
Panel 3: You Refuse to associate with anyone I associate with? That's a Hell no, you're not even a friend moment.
Panel 4: I Hate to be the one to say it, but if she's not willing to put in any effort to get you, and can, then she probably doesn't care about you that much. And you should probably just walk away
