Abnormal doesn't mean worse. Normal doesn't mean better. PEEPEE Mill'' r HARASSMENT. "Normal" is term about statistics and we should stop using it as if it defines morality/acceptability. So I agree with you. Abnormal doesn't mean worse Normal better PEEPEE Mill'' r HARASSMENT "Normal" is term about statistics and we should stop using it as if defines morality/acceptability So I agree with you
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#1 - rahtoga
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"Normal" is term about statistics and we should stop using it as if it defines morality/acceptability. So I agree with you.
"Normal" is term about statistics and we should stop using it as if it defines morality/acceptability. So I agree with you.
User avatar #354 to #1 - beerterror
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liberal faggot
User avatar #360 to #354 - amuzen
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I don't think I know what people think liberal means anymore. From what I understand this is the opposite of the general consensus of what people think uber liberal retards think.
User avatar #361 to #360 - beerterror
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I didn't understand you post entirely, but by liberal I mean the modern, statist-leftist-hippie attitude that's imposed all over Europe and I guess US too.
User avatar #362 to #361 - amuzen
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that 'statist-leftist-hippie' attitude is generally considered to be for the normalization of non-traditional gender roles though
this comment is, albeit not strongly, against that.
User avatar #364 to #362 - beerterror
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well that's kind of satisfactory.
User avatar #409 to #1 - leepicfunposter
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>500 thumbs for this retarded comment

epic upvote script there, faggot
#3 to #1 - anon id: 00582dfa
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A repost with a comment that was reposted even.

well, that's a new low.
#4 to #3 - rahtoga
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Comment Picture
#9 to #4 - anon id: a18abed5
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last time the content was posted, 1st comment was word for word what you said. Fargort!
User avatar #310 to #9 - dracolegacy
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links?
User avatar #456 to #310 - viktordiaz
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Word from word from Imgur.

imgur.com/gallery/NLnAhHT
User avatar #76 to #9 - serotonin
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maybe he posted it?
#18 to #1 - dizzyhills
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there are three kinds of lies. little white lies, deceitful lies and then there are statistics.
#182 to #1 - anon id: b6902d6b
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I guess being from a specific country isnt normal
#203 to #1 - anon id: 18496fe0
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You are making the rest of humanity stupid
User avatar #260 to #1 - hidingrighthere
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Am I the only one who thinks that Abbet looks like Bill nye the Science Guy when his head turns?
User avatar #279 to #260 - givememoarpony
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I thought of that too.
#384 to #1 - leepicfunposter
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rate my gains
User avatar #414 to #1 - mistafishy
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Why would you take my face?
User avatar #462 to #1 - nimba
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I like to use the word modal
#477 to #1 - voidherald
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Sure, but it has definite 'acceptability' connotations. The 'average' person doesn't have ADHD but we still tell parents it's normal. Being normal isn't about being average, and never really has been, it's an exclusionary term.
User avatar #148 to #1 - herbolifee
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Except that it isn't. Normal is about norms (hence the term NORMal) which is exactly about morality in society.
User avatar #408 to #1 - schmuxy
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a word can have more than one meaning, so the the word normal isn't sole property of statistics.
User avatar #37 to #1 - bodasion
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"Normal" is not a statistical term. "Normality" is a statistical term. "Normal distribution" is a statistical term. "Normal" is not.

I'm not trying to be snarky or contentious. I'm just trying to point out the limitations of "normal" when we use it in this context.

Take a hypothetical scenario where we sample a random pool of 100 people. At least one of those people is going to sample as being transgender. That would mean that the "norm" is that every pool of a hundred people is going to have at least one transgender person. Put differently, any given pool of a hundred people containing no transgender people would be the "abnormal" pool.

So "normal" becomes relative to a lot of different factors. Determining "normality" is simply setting a few parameters and limiting your study to those parameters. It may be "abnormal" in the United States for men to wear skirts, but in Scotland, wearing a kilt isn't abnormal at all.

That's what I don't really understand about this completely unnecessary distinction between "normal" and "abnormal," here. What's the point of establishing "normality" in this instance except to imply that there are certain "normal" traits which people are expected to have? It's technically "abnormal" for any given person to play COD since the vast majority of people do not play COD, but what's the point of mentioning that? It's completely useless information.
User avatar #45 to #37 - bigstick
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we can void all of the problems by making normal a statistical term but view it from another angle. Lets say a pool has 99 CIS and 1 TRANS. This means that pools normally have CIS people in them, but TRANS people may also be there. Another example would be a pub that is frequented by 80 white people and 20 black people. Normally the bar is mostly filled with white people, but there may be black people in it. An abnormality is when the percentage of other raced people is bigger than the usual race of people that are in it, so if it has 60 black people, the population is abnormal.
User avatar #47 to #45 - bodasion
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I know what the definition of "normal" is. I'm pointing out that, just like you did, you can play with the stats to come up with a different definition of normal.

Since there are more white people in your example, that makes it "normal" to be white, but that isn't really telling us anything. It's still completely useless nonsense masquerading as information. It doesn't tell us anything.

Using your same example, let's say we're taking the population of the United States where ~70% of the population is white and ~14% of the population is black. That means white is "normal" and black is "abnormal". What does that tell us? Absolutely nothing. Take the same example, but instead pool a random set of 100 persons in the United States. Any pool not containing any black people would be the "abnormal" pool. What does that tell us? Absolutely nothing.

So that's what I'm trying to figure out. Why is pointing out "normal" relative to very specific factors necessary? (It isn't.) What does it tell us? (Nothing.)

It's nonsense masquerading as information.
User avatar #274 to #47 - skaffanl
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The definition of normal as not statistical is imo "as close to average". If most people eat at 8pm is pretty normal to start eating at 7.30pm or 8.30pm but if you eat your meals at 6pm you're abnormal because you are far from average.
User avatar #468 to #274 - Scorch
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as close to avarage is statisticaley determined, the examples above are the same as yours. except they more clearly determine the group in which the average is taken. You have taken as your group, the entire world and determined that the greatest part of the world eats between 7.30-8.30 and therefore it's abnormal to eat at a different time.

So by that logic the greater part of people in the world are asian looking (I think) so it's abnormal to not be asian.
#38 - Trollathon
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A time ago, I was dating this really cute girl, who after dating for a week came out as trans, and started presenting like a guy.
as a straight male, it was... difficult to stay together with him.
(s)he was molested by h(er)is brother as a kid, so (s)he was pretty messed up, and was afraid of intimacy.
I mean (s)he did sleep with me (after a long time), said (s)he wanted to marry me, and then cheated on me with my best friend. (who is gay, btw)
User avatar #295 to #38 - stifflimb
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You mean when you forget the picture where your gender is defined by what parts you are born with and not an emotionell state.
User avatar #296 to #295 - Trollathon
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gender = what you identify as
sex = what parts you have
User avatar #302 to #296 - stifflimb
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I see, so children dont have genders since we cant ask them, now do you feel like a boy or a girl, sounds logical.
User avatar #313 to #302 - Trollathon
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gender = sex, until stated otherwise.
seriously though?
theres no point in arguing against me. you're not going to change my opinion. I'm just trying to educate people who want to know more.
User avatar #332 to #313 - stifflimb
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Gender and sex are synonyms for each other.
User avatar #337 to #332 - Trollathon
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cmon dude, please just stop. I'm tired, and I'm watching netflix.
obviously neither of us are going to change our opinions.
so just, **** off.
User avatar #356 to #337 - stifflimb
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Only thing you have to do youself is stop answearing to my every comment if you cant handle it anymore.
#74 to #38 - anon id: a461e618
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>tfw in 20 years progressivism will make it illegal to refuse to date someone who is trans, labeling it as an act of oppression
#75 to #74 - Trollathon
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dude when he was still looking like a she, she was really hot.
at least, my kinda hot. (short dark hair, mean-looking, but quiet)
and I mean, even with her tits hidden, and guy clothes... damn.
User avatar #265 to #75 - mayedh
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I think most people, like myself, were thinking you meant guy to girl to guy.
User avatar #273 to #265 - Trollathon
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sorry if I confused anyone :L
but no,
girl ->guy
User avatar #277 to #273 - mayedh
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Np, I figured it out from earlier comments.
#78 to #38 - anon id: c62162cc
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I thought I had ****** luck but you make me feel better about myself. Thanks!
#79 to #78 - Trollathon
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th....anks?
I... think?
User avatar #87 to #38 - elmosays
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started presenting like a guy? I thought you said (s)he was trans not a cross dresser there is a difference i assure you.
User avatar #100 to #87 - Trollathon
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(s)he is trans, but didn't come out until after we were dating.
once she came out, she started
User avatar #403 to #100 - elmosays
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That's strange. Usually transgender people don't stop acting like their wanted gender. They often feel as if they are born in the wrong body and try to reach their goal of being a male or female even if it take surgery and hormone supplements.
#255 to #38 - exd
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I mean (s)he did sleep with me (after a long time), said (s)he wanted to marry me, and then cheated on me with my best friend. (who is gay, btw) Ahahaha oh wow ymmd
User avatar #257 to #255 - Trollathon
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not even mad, just disappointed.
#256 to #38 - cannibalvegan
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This is some soap opera material right there. Crazy ****.
This is some soap opera material right there. Crazy ****.
User avatar #259 to #256 - Trollathon
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**** sucked. but y'know, I still feel like a better person now that I've lived through it.
User avatar #316 to #38 - niggernazi
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what the ****
#423 to #38 - kingdaniel
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What kind of low standards do you have?
What kind of low standards do you have?
User avatar #486 to #423 - Trollathon
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not that low, she was pretty hot.
shorter, short brown hair, like maybe C cups, face is solid 6/10, skinny
User avatar #438 to #38 - atrocitustheking
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> wants to marry you
> cheats on you

Pick one. If he/she is cheating even before the marriage, there is no hope that they'll be faithful after the ring's on.
User avatar #485 to #438 - Trollathon
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no ****, it was some stupid **** she said *just* after sleeping with me
User avatar #105 to #38 - thinkwithportals
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***** what

User avatar #374 to #38 - inomgod
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Dang. Your story is better than the content. I totally forgot what the content was. So when I looked at other comments, I didn't know what they were talking about.

Anyway, sorry that happened, but you kinda should have known (s)he'd leave you for a guy that wants a guy.
#506 to #38 - sliferzpwns
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**** man, I don't even know how that works I'm sorry that happened to you. By the way anticitezenone you should have posted this pic
User avatar #97 to #38 - maxismahname
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You kissed a person with a penis, and slept with them.
That's pretty ******* gay, no matter how girly (s)he looked
#101 to #97 - Trollathon
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I kissed a person with a vagina, who wanted a penis.
User avatar #102 to #101 - maxismahname
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"Came out as trans"
I was under the impression that trans means from penis to vagina or vice versa
User avatar #103 to #102 - Trollathon
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transgender = gender != pysical body
transexual = post-sex-change
User avatar #111 to #103 - maxismahname
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But you said "trans," which could mean either of those things... I'm very confused
User avatar #113 to #111 - Trollathon
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I guess it could be confusing.
no, it was a chick with female bits, who wanted to be a guy with guy bits, but did not ahve them.
User avatar #114 to #113 - maxismahname
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Ahh thank you for clarifying. Well then I retract my previous statement. Pussy is pussy
User avatar #144 to #113 - tsoper
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And i want to be ******* santa clause, does that make me santa clause? ******* no.

she isnt trans, stop this ****.
#162 to #144 - Trollathon
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jesus christ you are dumb.   
   
"People who were assigned a sex, usually at birth and based on their genitals, but who feel that this is a false or incomplete description of themselves."   
   
 "USI LGBT Campaign - Transgender Campaign". Retrieved 11 January 2012.   
-web.archive.org/web/20080608075230/www.usilgbt.org/index.php?categoryid=35
jesus christ you are dumb.

"People who were assigned a sex, usually at birth and based on their genitals, but who feel that this is a false or incomplete description of themselves."

"USI LGBT Campaign - Transgender Campaign". Retrieved 11 January 2012.
-web.archive.org/web/20080608075230/www.usilgbt.org/index.php?categoryid=35
User avatar #166 to #162 - tsoper
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ok, who gives a ****. thats not trans, thats ******* retarded.

the only dumb person here is you who cannot logic or use common sense.

"I am actually a cashier at walmart, but i feel like this is a false description of myself because im actually supposed to be santa clause"

rethink your life, faggot.
#167 to #166 - Trollathon
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...
go do any any amount of research on what Transgender is, and then come back.
seriously.
User avatar #168 to #167 - tsoper
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to be transgender she would have to be gay first. otherwise she cant claim she wants to be a man without having the man brain
#179 to #168 - Trollathon
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that... makes literally no sense.
gay males exist? idk, I guess that's my only answer to that statement.
User avatar #181 to #179 - tsoper
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maybe she is just a straight woman.
#183 to #181 - Trollathon
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well, you tried.
I'm getting bored/tired.
gonna go watch archer on netflix.
good luck. with being wrong.
by the way, you're wrong. just sayin.
User avatar #402 to #183 - redstag
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archer's the ****, new season out on netflix, so much yiss.
User avatar #262 to #183 - exd
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this convo...
#263 to #262 - Trollathon
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when a troll is this obvious...
User avatar #184 to #183 - tsoper
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im right, you are wrong

nothing you write is going to change my mind because i am not reading.
#186 to #184 - Trollathon
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alright, well have fun.
picture very related, also lrn2 logical fallacy.
night!
User avatar #272 to #186 - stifflimb
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Although his arguments kinda went haywire, I tend to agree with him to some part, gender I dont see as an emotional state, it's how you were born. If you are born with a penis and operate it away and get boobs I still see that person as a guy (although in the reverse girl changing into guy parts, I dont think I would see her as a girl sex(****) wise anymore).
Seeing people saying no I'm actually a boy/girl just makes me think of the people whom uses fake tails and ears claiming they are actually wolfs or cats instead of humans.
I mean it's okey for them to use it, free will ffs, but hell if I'm ever gonna believe it.
User avatar #278 to #272 - Trollathon
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oh well, everyone has opinions.
and some people, like you, have wrong opinions.
#453 to #278 - anon id: 3a28f3ba
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Wow what the ****, no need to be a prick, especially since you created confusion in the first place by saying "trans" instead of "transgender" at the start.

Do transgenders exist? Yes.
Am I forced to like them? No.
Does the fact that I don't like them allow me to mistreat them? No.
Am I allowed to think whatever I want of them? Yes.

End of story, so wrong opinion my ass.
User avatar #487 to #453 - Trollathon
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wow, nice one anon.
did you not see the picture I posted that was meant to go with it?
I was being a sarcasshole.
User avatar #281 to #278 - stifflimb
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So you believe some people actually are wolfes and animals, then I guess"tsoper" actually is santa claus.
If you cant take a second to rethink and view other peoples points, then your own point will never have any real value as it never had any real though to it.
#287 to #281 - Trollathon
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wow that really doesn't work when you forget the picture.
sorry, re-read with this pic.
#379 to #101 - anon id: d9bc3af7
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i just learned that vagina gets censored for anons, but not penis... my confusion is immense
User avatar #318 to #101 - niggernazi
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so it was a girl all along?
User avatar #320 to #318 - Trollathon
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transguy.
a girl, with a vagina, who was transgender.
so really, more like a guy with tits and a vagina.
User avatar #321 to #320 - niggernazi
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but she was born as a female but her biggest dream was to have a penis?
User avatar #322 to #321 - Trollathon
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she was born a girl, but she identified as a guy.
as in, like...
some people are just born gay, she was just born feeling like she was a guy.
User avatar #325 to #322 - niggernazi
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oh, i thought you slept with a dude who pretended that he was a girl all along
User avatar #328 to #325 - Trollathon
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yeah sorry, I think some people got confused.
but yeah, a girl who felt like a guy.
she did like, bandage her tits so she looked flat-chested, wore guys clothes, and had short hair.
User avatar #331 to #328 - niggernazi
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well ok. i got confused as hell there
#39 to #38 - azsx
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living the dream
User avatar #84 to #39 - MikeLit
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Don't know why, but I lost my **** at that comment.
User avatar #42 to #39 - Trollathon
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actually that was a large turning point in my life when I became really self-reliant and turned my life around.
even though it was probably the worst thing that's happened to me
(losing the only person I've ever felt an emotional connection with, my best friend, along with other things)
I really think I'm a better person because of it.
#51 to #42 - azsx
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we learn our-self in times of need
User avatar #52 to #51 - Trollathon
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true, that.
#398 to #42 - anticitezenone
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#441 to #42 - dangaddy
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and now you're a brony faggot that dated a freak.
#472 to #39 - silverlance
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User avatar #62 to #2 - deadmansdope
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Isn't that just implying that everyone is a tool?
User avatar #63 to #62 - LaBarata
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Well, you certainly seem to be one.
#64 to #63 - deadmansdope
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That's not what your mom said last night.
That's not what your mom said last night.
#65 to #64 - LaBarata
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Well, yes, I'd imagine she wouldn't. I'd also imagine she wouldn't be saying anything. Urns don't talk much.
#68 to #65 - deadmansdope
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Comment Picture
#154 to #65 - thefates
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#250 to #65 - yuukoku
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Oooh...

That was ******* heavy. I'm sorry.
User avatar #142 to #62 - tsoper
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because we are.

look at our bodies, tell me what you see. tools.
#72 to #62 - anon id: 04d82de9
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For creating progress and happiness and art, sure.
#41 - verycoolcat
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Never considered that position before. I'm going to use it.

'Your handicapped, you are a human being and deserve to be treated as such, but you aren't normal'
'Your mentally retarded, you are a human being and deserve to be treated as such, but you aren't normal'
'Your gay, you are a human being and deserve to be treated as such, but you aren't normal'

I like that... I can be nice and an asshole at the same time.
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User avatar #57 to #55 - wellimnotsure
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why? its true
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The point of attraction and sex is to procreate. That isn't some religious morality, its fact. Homosexuality doesn't lead to procreation. Its just science. It isn't normal. Saying it's normal is saying sexual attraction to anything is normal, which it isn't.
User avatar #69 to #60 - flyingvivo
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"I send gays to fix overpopulation, boy did that go well!" From God's Perspective. (FULL SHOW on YouTube/Netflix)
#238 to #60 - anon id: dbbf7226
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Ask evolutionary biologists and not penguin pictures on the internet the point of homosexuals is to care for other's kids and "procreate" by rearing children.
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User avatar #86 to #61 - serotonin
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That....is not argument. Humans are also not only species that gets cancer but it doesnt make it any more desirable or ``normal``.
There is no such thing as built in population control. Genes ``want to`` propagate them selfs and species will try to expand as much as resorces/competition alow it. Maybe I am wrong but in that case please point me to some reference so I my study it.
#70 to #61 - verycoolcat
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I don't actually think that they are weird or bad or whatever.

They just aren't like everyone else.

Being goth isn't normal.
Being a furry isn't normal.
Being mentally disabled isn't normal.
Being gay isn't normal.
Spending all day online isn't normal.
Being white and being good in the NBA isn't normal
Doesn't mean i dislike you for it... you just aren't part of the norm... i.e. normal.
User avatar #180 to #59 - thewulfman
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Normal is basically just a word for the majority of people.

Are the majority of people gay? No. Thus it is not normal. There's nothing wrong with being gay, there's nothing wrong not being normal. That's the biggest hurdle I think people get tripped on.

There's nothing wrong with not being normal.

Just don't be an asshole and ask to be called normal when you're not, or get insulted when you're not considered normal.
User avatar #436 to #59 - namnori
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What a ******* moron
User avatar #58 to #55 - Ropyx
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Especially Gay over Mentally Retarded, you got your priority damn straight (or not)
#443 to #41 - anon id: 11ad6b15
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Ironically, the only 'normal' sexual orientation we had before religion and other crazy **** got in the way was being bisexual. So being gay or straight would be being abnormal while being bi would be normal. Just goes to show wether we're fags or not according to FJ, we'll always be abnormal (or at least most of us are).
#245 to #41 - ILIEKPEPSEE
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"You're black, you are a human being and deserve to be treated as such, but you aren't normal."

whoever's fw they say this

This is a joke, just to show how easily a blanket statement like this can be twisted, so don't shower me in red thumbs because you're misinformed to the purpose and nature of my comment, find some other reason to do it.
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I went on a date with a girl who told me her transgendered cousin was "Heroic and brave for being who he is"

But I tell her my brothers are autistic and she tells me that the mentally handicapped need to be euthanized at a young age so they aren't burdens to the state.

The retards today's culture breeds makes me fear for the future.
#133 to #112 - princessren
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it scares me that you think people are breeding a generation whose majority has a mind set like this
#136 to #133 - fyaq
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Did I say that? No.
I said "the retards today's culture breeds"
The particularly stupid and cancerous people.
Aka you.

Yes its a minority, but it still irks me to no end they exist at all.
User avatar #139 to #136 - princessren
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then why fear for the future if they are a minority
User avatar #146 to #139 - fyaq
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The more this attitude of "different is beautiful" and "political correctness" is adopted, the more idiots we get like this.

It takes 1 idiot to ruin something.

#392 to #139 - alimais
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Jews are also a minority and look what kind of damage they could do if they wanted to
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its the fact that we know she isn't the only one who thinks that way
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People who suffer from crippling mental handicaps are burdens on the state and those who must care for them, simply due to the fact that they can never provide for themselves, but they are still people.
Her cousin underwent the operation because they were uncomfortable in their previous body. Choosing to live in the body you believe you should have as opposed to suffering in a body you hate isn't heroic at all, it's you seeking out what makes you happy.
That bitch isn't a retard, she's just a hypocritical cunt. And both of you are bad at first dates, apparently.
User avatar #123 to #112 - solareyes
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I feel like I must respond to this but I have no clue what to say. Essentially have a thumb and I like what you said
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That she should be the first in line to be euthanized for being mentally handicapped and is a burden on the state?
User avatar #128 to #126 - solareyes
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I think I see what you did there
User avatar #129 to #128 - taintedangel
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joke was she's the hypocritical retard.
User avatar #130 to #129 - solareyes
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Yay! Then I see what you did there! Nice one
#475 to #112 - samxdaxman
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Even if she didn't think her brother was heroic, telling someone their own brother should be killed is a ******* awful person. I'm glad you told that bitch off. Kill her brother and leave a note saying "it's so he's not a burden to the state."
#406 to #112 - chords
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this has sort of happend to me before , missing out on a relationship because my bad has schizophrenia and brother has autism and she was treating them like animals
User avatar #132 to #112 - fukkentyranitar
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I'd punch her in throat if she ever said that about my relatives.
User avatar #138 to #132 - fyaq
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I told her off and tossed her tea in her face.

Got up, threw my trash away, walked out.
Noone said a ******* word.
User avatar #141 to #138 - fukkentyranitar
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Soooooo...you didn't punch her in throat?
User avatar #491 to #141 - fyaq
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Nope. She deserved a good collapse of the windpipe tho.
#82 - hantervan
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for some stupid reason i read through the comments and i have come to the conclusion there are some ****** up individuals on this site.
and on a seperate note people who use the term "cis" should go kick bricks, it makes you look like a self indulged anti-conformist little tumblr preaching ****, with nothing better to do then fire of ******** about how every difference is beautiful.
tl;dr i ******* despise tumblr girls or whatever bull they wanna "identify" as
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Sorry to tell you mate, but this site is becoming more and more like tumblr. Many anti tumblr cooments are being red thumbed and the Fj has started to belive the ******** tumblr sjw have been spewing.
#81 - serotonin
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I am psychologist and let me tell you all that subject of ``what is normal`` is still debated. That is why DSM is so shaky. Also psychology deals with some touchy subjects so political correctnes will try to push its way in. There was a vote wheter homosexuallity is a disorder or not. A VOTE! You dont vote on scientific truths - that is how you hide your ignorance on subject.    
My personal view is that anything that dramaticly decreases ones reproductive chances is deviation/illnes. Some of them can be fixed/managed, and some (still) cant, like sexual preference. That doesnt change fact that everyone should be treated with dignity and be provided chance do have ``normal`` life
I am psychologist and let me tell you all that subject of ``what is normal`` is still debated. That is why DSM is so shaky. Also psychology deals with some touchy subjects so political correctnes will try to push its way in. There was a vote wheter homosexuallity is a disorder or not. A VOTE! You dont vote on scientific truths - that is how you hide your ignorance on subject.
My personal view is that anything that dramaticly decreases ones reproductive chances is deviation/illnes. Some of them can be fixed/managed, and some (still) cant, like sexual preference. That doesnt change fact that everyone should be treated with dignity and be provided chance do have ``normal`` life
#149 to #81 - exsequor
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Well, seeing as psychology isn't actually a science, there are no "scientific truths" in psych.
User avatar #314 to #149 - serotonin
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It kind of is. We are doing are best to make it so but there are also those who try to make it a bloody glorified astrology. Still we have a long way to go. Also neuro science might end up killing or changing modern psychology but I fully support that.
User avatar #426 to #314 - tealcanaan
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Ya, psychology actually uses reasonable tests, its not that bs soft science they call sociology.
User avatar #483 to #426 - serotonin
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Problem is that psychological constructs that are goal of our research are not physical objects. All other sciences have their goals in real world while we have to deal with something that is inside our own minds. So we make tests or use observation of behavior as manifestations of constucts that we try to understand. But as I said, now we can connect some of constructs with specific parts of brain and brain functions so it is looking good for psychology as science
User avatar #275 to #81 - jokersaysamuseme
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Do you know the story of the King and Queen and the drinking well? Everyone should learn from that story.
User avatar #481 to #275 - serotonin
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No. Never heared of it
User avatar #497 to #481 - jokersaysamuseme
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Its the story where a King and Queen were happily living in their kingdom with their people. Someone evil poisons the water well where everyone except the King and Queen drink from. Everyone goes insane. And all the crazy people think the King and Queen are crazy because they act so differently to them. The King and Queen drink from the poisoned well and go insane and everyone lived happily and crazily ever after. Pretty much in a nutshell.
User avatar #498 to #497 - serotonin
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interesting story.
#349 to #81 - implication
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>psychology
>relevancy towards biology

Homosexuality is a disorder, people seem to deny it for the sake of political correctness. Disorders are not the definitions of the abnormal or unethical but the unnatural (with a physical clarification).
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I comented because topic of normality is big psychologica isue. Homosexuallity is mostly in realm of biology (But there are some cases and some aspects that are interesting for psychologists)
#375 to #81 - felixjarl
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One thing I think should be taken up in this debate is altruism.

One theory I have been brewing on is that homosexuality developed as a tool for us to survive. Humans are a pack species. And to work better as a pack we need to know and care for the other members of the pack. Now what if homosexuality developed as a way for us to bond deeper than just normal friendship.

We are more willing to help someone we have a relationship with than someone who we don't, be it lover, one night stand or commitment. One good example is the sacred band of Thebes, a Greek city state with a 300 soldier elite unit. This unit consisted of 150 pairs of homosexual lovers. They were so willing to fight for their loved ones that they would fight like beasts. As anyone would for the person they cared the most about.

Many people in their teens will often develop bisexuality or full homosexuality which passes over in a few years. Many times creating lasting friendship even after they have lost their interest in these people sexually.
So what if it truly is like that? A way that makes it easier for the pack to survive at the expense of a few member who will not reproduce.
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That is one theory. Last one I heared is that it is fall out of mothers defence mechanism. If she is bearing a boy her body will detect that more testosterone in system and will try to reduce it thus afflicting child. That theory makes some sense but then it does not explain lesbians.

Theory that you just mentioned has one little flaw, rearly or never does one ``gene pool`` sacrifices it self for benefite of whole. If it was some genetic trait wouldnt it get weeded out after few generations?
User avatar #448 to #81 - gaifgt
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I find what you think about "anything that dramatically decreases ones reproductive chances" an illness. Are you calling me mentally ill for being gay and liking dick up my ass instead of shoving it in a vagina and getting a girl pregnant? I know you're a psychologist but I don't find this right. And no, I do not believe you can change your sexuality even with praying and going to the doctor or having brain surgery. You are who you are, buddy. :p
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What if I increase something else? Like the amount of times my name is mentioned! Wait, 30 a day is enough -_-
User avatar #478 to #448 - serotonin
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``Some of them can be fixed/managed, and some (still) cant, like sexual preference.``. As you can see I never said that it can be changed (yet), I presume that when we figure out what is cousing it it will be treatable in prenatal stage.
You are who you are. I partially agree with you there. I dont mind you being gay. I mind gay loby forcing everyone to accept it as something compleatly normal. Homosexuallity was removed from DSM under external presure.
You find it what? Insulting? I aint gonna sugar cote it for you or for anyone else. Am I calling you mentally ill? Not really. More ....generally aflicted - it goes beyond mind.
#107 to #81 - jlew
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Yay someone with the same opinion as me! *high five*   
   
But in all seriousness; yes, anything that reduces reproduction rates is a deviation and is therefore by definition abnormal. Even if you want it to be socially normal, it just isn't physically normal. That doesn't mean that those people should be oppressed, ridiculed, or, god-forbid, killed (looking at you hitler), but trying to say that it is perfectly normal just creates potential problems.    
From a societal point of view, we should just accept those people, they are still people and as long as their population doesn't start to rival the population of normal people than there is no real issue. From a psychological point of view, just talk to the person about why they feel that way, whether they maybe have some repressed trauma causing it, or maybe they really just like the same gender; who cares? They are still people.
Yay someone with the same opinion as me! *high five*

But in all seriousness; yes, anything that reduces reproduction rates is a deviation and is therefore by definition abnormal. Even if you want it to be socially normal, it just isn't physically normal. That doesn't mean that those people should be oppressed, ridiculed, or, god-forbid, killed (looking at you hitler), but trying to say that it is perfectly normal just creates potential problems.
From a societal point of view, we should just accept those people, they are still people and as long as their population doesn't start to rival the population of normal people than there is no real issue. From a psychological point of view, just talk to the person about why they feel that way, whether they maybe have some repressed trauma causing it, or maybe they really just like the same gender; who cares? They are still people.
User avatar #484 to #107 - serotonin
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It is hard finding people with this kind of opinion. Liberals always jump on me (how dare I say something bad about their beloved gays) and conservatives jump on me for supporting child adoption by gay couples (if research shows that it doesnt afflict child and I belive it would do just that)
#119 - randomdylan
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*What we were all thinking puffin*
*What we were all thinking puffin*
#145 to #119 - BraindeadBuddha
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Indeed.
Indeed.
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>implying chromosomes are shaped like Xs and Ys
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User avatar #77 - SammieSama
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As a trans person, I agree.

It's not normal. It's not the norm for people to feel so uncomfortable in their own skin and to identify as something they aren't. It just makes us feel normal, I guess.

There are obviously the people who do it to be different, so that others will think they're abnormal and get all the attention that comes with that. But for the most part, it's just people who want to feel normal and comfortable. Who doesn't want to feel comfortable?
#396 to #77 - alimais
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For me it`s kinda like role playing.   
People want to be something what they are not or not born.    
   
It`s okay wanting to be something else or live under other situations but`s not okay to say that you are 100% something you are not.
For me it`s kinda like role playing.
People want to be something what they are not or not born.

It`s okay wanting to be something else or live under other situations but`s not okay to say that you are 100% something you are not.
User avatar #401 to #77 - joaomartins
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Do your boobs feel like real boobs ?
User avatar #494 to #401 - SammieSama
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Yes, I've yet to have them removed. Until then they get to squeeze into my binder and make my back ache.
#473 to #77 - jazzytheferret
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User avatar #493 to #473 - SammieSama
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Depends on how you look at it. I consider myself male, and some people I know do too. Some people would argue that I'm not and never will be, and that's true too. I'm just trying to be more comfortable. You can't make everyone happy, so start with yourself and try not to hurt anyone along the way.
#495 to #493 - jazzytheferret
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I like you~ I was just trying to turn the seriousness into some fun; so thanks for not taking offense.
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=)
User avatar #211 to #77 - oxymoronking
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so, were you born a guy and went to girl or born a girl and became a guy or other
User avatar #492 to #211 - SammieSama
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Female to male, aha.