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#9 - Sataria
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This is why we can't have nice things. ADD and ADHD are not the same things and they consist of more than just daydreaming.
This is why we can't have nice things. ADD and ADHD are not the same things and they consist of more than just daydreaming.
User avatar #19 to #9 - theanchoviebus
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But now we classify it all as ADHD
#31 to #19 - superduperpuper
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Nope I had ADD. It's pretty different from ADHD, beause I was silent as **** and I know an ADHD dude and he would bounce around the whole time especially when he was told to sit still. ADD is the daydreamer (which I still do pretty often, but ADD such ad ADHD are things where the borders to normal behaviour are really fluent. Like you can swich several times a day between beeing really unconcentrated and beeing classified with ADD (which doesn't really count for the more extreme cases). But I think society, especially teachers and often even parents are going the wrong way just because someone says it is a "mental illness". It is in fact not. It is just slumbering potential. Do you happen to know TED talk? There is that guy who talks about the woman that coreographed "Cats". Really interesting stuff right there. One of my teachers saw that I had much fantasy and brought me to writing and acting. I don't want to brag, but I'm a pretty decent writer. Not world-class but I'm trying to get better and plan on publishing my work one day. Also I play theatre (and I'm pretty good at it... but mostly because of my cast leaders... they know their ****.)

What I want to say is that kids are too fast drugged today, just because the are "ill". They are just "ill" because no one wants to put up with their ****. Ritalin for once is just modified cocaine. **** the ADHD dude I know just stopped to take it an bought his XBox 360 and his smartphone from money he got from selling his Ritalin to students with a big work shedule. And I know from him that many people with ADHD do this.
User avatar #82 to #31 - imostlyroll
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I have ADD and I couldn't read that whole thing. But I seriously have ADD
User avatar #73 to #31 - theanchoviebus
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Didn't get to read that 2nd paragraph yet, my pediatrician threw like 4 different meds at me within 2 years but I was allergic to all of them, they wouldn't help at all ad I'd get the side effects suppppppeeerrr bad. Concerta almost killed me for Christ's sake. Traded that bottle the next day for a quarter of bud, that's the **** that keeps me on track...

No preaching weed is the miracle drug people act like it is, but it really can help if in small amounts and not abused to just get stoned for fun.
User avatar #71 to #31 - theanchoviebus
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I'm well aware being that I was so ADHD I would literally cry to my mom being the only person I had because I was called to hangout with someone no more than 10 times from 2nd-8th grade... Call me a bitch, whatever I've heard plenty of times. But now I've mellowed out a lot and my life's been flipped around since high school, I've become Starting keeper and team captian for soccer and top 5 swimmer on our team as a second year swimmer. People started liking me more so I built the confidence to go out and excel at things again. It just bothers me how doctors put the two together like they know **** when ya my friends have to tell me to just slow down when I'm talking loud or fast or a lot, but I've switched more to the ADD side of things.
#47 to #31 - anon id: d9c9c1cf
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I've actually seen the TED talk you're talking about. It just shows that every person is different and have different interests and strong sides. You can't put an artistic person into office work and expect 100% good result. **** just don't work that way.
User avatar #33 to #9 - dumbassvtwo
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Well they are mostly the same, the only difference between the two is that with ADHD theres added Hyperactivity along with the lack of attention so if you don't have your meds or you're amped up on caffeine or cocaine or some **** expect to be going through the ******* roof with the energy.

Source: I have borderline ADHD which apparently means that I dont have the full blown thing. To be honest I rarely do feel hyper but I can tell that I still have attention problems although I did stop my meds a couple of years ago.
User avatar #36 - redstag
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I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was in the 1st grade. That medicine made me feel like I wasn't myself. I would always pretend like I took it and spit out the pill. They eventually stuck me special ed, with retards and kids who couldn't even read all because I didn't want to sit and do repetitive ******* work every ******* day. And It wasn't like I was a distraction or anything I just wanted to read my books that was all. But the teachers were all "hurr durr he isn't conforming like the other kids, he won't write the word 'mountain' 20 times somethings wrong with him". Then in 6th grade we had to do our state test I was in the top 2% of all the students in Washington the person who was behind me at my school didn't even make the top 15%. So they held a ******* assembly and I a ******* special ed kid got an award in front of the entire school for basically being the smartest kid there. Even though I had failing grades. If the school system were different and was actually meant to educate people my entire life would be different but school isn't about learning school is all about making you conform, it has nothing to do with intelligence if you aren't like everyone else you wont succeed in school.
User avatar #39 to #36 - mutzaki
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School is necessary for rivalry in the job market, and that's pretty much it. If there were no grades to go on, choosing someone to work for you would be many times harder. You're right, school isn't meant to teach, and grades don't really tell you anything about what you learned, but rather what you achieved and how much time you put into your school work.
User avatar #40 to #39 - redstag
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It's true. I guess I didn't mention that once I got to college or tech school I actually did great, but public school was hell for me.
#48 to #36 - kiboz
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True, but that can and has to be changed. I know it sounds silly, and I am still in school too, I have to go through the retarded tests and whatnot, but we could be the generation to change that. Never lose fate, and try to actually be the one who will change something, instead of just feeling bad about it.
User avatar #64 to #48 - redstag
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I'm going to school to be a school counselor literally because that was the only person in the whole public school system who didn't try to shove me in a back room out of the way.
User avatar #53 to #36 - ishalltroll
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While ADHD medication does that to people (not feeling like yourself; becoming cold to emotions etc.), it can be really helpful in the sense that the concentration is extremely much higher if the effects hit properly. I live in germany and I actually know of a few students who got ADHD medication without actually ever being diagnosed, and simply using it to gain higher concentration during tests and while studying.
TL;DR: We need to find a way to nullify ADHD medication side-effects and then give that **** to every child at school.
#56 to #36 - anon id: 56db2c57
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Kinda feel your pain there, i was diagnosed with some disorder and i can honestly say it ruined my life. Aside from being secluded to reside with absolute mental cases i couldn't socialize with other normal behaving people, the pure fact of having a label on me meant as soon as kids saw me they would think i was a retard and treat me differently.
And here i am today an adult with zero friends.
#58 to #36 - anon id: e6f35b54
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I know what you're talking about. My parents used to give atomoxetine for my ADHD, and it made me lose my will to live altogether. When I told my parents I didn't like the drug they said I was "too hyper" whenever I didn't take it. I had to take the drug or else I wouldn't be able to handle myself, they said. So, like you, I hid it in my pocket, hid it behind my tongue, I did whatever I could to just not take these drugs. Whenever my parents found out I didn't take my meds, they would get mad at me and give me a speech because of it. Basically, my parents would get mad at me for saying "no" to drugs. I don't take them anymore, good riddance.
#66 to #36 - swagbot
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You're right, they're wrong. No... really.

The Pills are about $$$ for Pharma Companies, and enabling Lazy Parents and Factory Education.

That's no excuse to not be disciplined (because you need to focus in life to be productive), but your assessment of school is right-on-the-money. Don't doubt your observations just because nobody in your immediate family/school affirms them.

There are good people and interesting things out there. Find them, and make those your life.

[washingtonfag here too. Class o' 2008]
User avatar #77 to #36 - admiralen
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think that means you got autism bro
User avatar #96 to #77 - redstag
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No, I was intelligent in every subject I would ace tests left and right but I had failing grades because I wouldn't do the work. Autism would be like I was really ******* good at math or some **** and couldn't tie my damn shoes.
User avatar #97 to #96 - admiralen
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i mean its signs of it, not being good in a group and understanding basic **** of society while being clever at some things
#98 to #97 - redstag
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hmm maybe
hmm maybe
#41 to #36 - TexMex
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#34 - stenchschleifs
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#61 - thechosentroll
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Well, since the comments are filled with more butthurt than amateur anal porn, I'll try to be as short and straight-forward as possible. NO ONE. GIVES. A. ****.   
   
No one cares about the difference between ADD and ADHD or if the kid actually has it. Parents just like blaming mental conditions and illnesses instead of admitting that their kids aren't perfect. Nothing more, nothing less. Now pull that stick out of your ass before you lacerate something.
Well, since the comments are filled with more butthurt than amateur anal porn, I'll try to be as short and straight-forward as possible. NO ONE. GIVES. A. ****.

No one cares about the difference between ADD and ADHD or if the kid actually has it. Parents just like blaming mental conditions and illnesses instead of admitting that their kids aren't perfect. Nothing more, nothing less. Now pull that stick out of your ass before you lacerate something.
User avatar #65 to #61 - Marker
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And then the same parents get pissed when the doctors tell them "no, your kid doesn't have <insert random mental illness here>"

Listen to the people with the ******* degrees, you dumb *****.
#1 - anon id: 7b59b2fa
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When it's occasional they still call it daydreaming. When it happens 5 times a day, and the teacher has to call their name several times to get their attention, that's when they start calling it ADHD.
User avatar #37 to #1 - turtletroll
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Now I think I have ADHD
User avatar #68 to #1 - xtwinblade
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i have got diagnosed with ADHD when i was about 7. It was a pretty accurate since if i dont take my meds i just faze out as soon as an interesting thought comes to my head. I loose all awareness of my surroundings, for others i just keep asking whats going on as soon as the teacher gives us a task or says something important.

but it also gives me a lot of creativity, unfortunatly not enough willpower to put it to good use.
User avatar #42 to #1 - gitanisme
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Nah, ADHD is fictitious.
It's just called boredom, I mean there's so much cool stuff to do and you're forced to focus on boring stuff thaat maybe won't help you for your future life, just to get a degree that is not a guarantee of a job anymore.
User avatar #2 to #1 - xtrmbragnrytz
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perhaps it's just boredom and finding a more enjoyable waste of time
#8 to #2 - cookiedude
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The issue is when a child can't place what they have learned into long-term memory, because when they learn something then get distracted, the brain focuses more on the distraction rather than transferring learned knowledge to long-term memory.
#3 to #2 - anon id: a44d3df9
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partially,yes,It was just really annoying when I tried to actually pay attention,and stuff would just....blur,like inverted tunnel vision.
User avatar #12 - nadam
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Back in the day?

Most of the people here went through grade school in the early 2000's.
#25 - percy
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You shouldn't diagnose them to early if only because the need to learn some coping mechanisms. But based on my experience the child need control over their medication. My parents saw it as a miracle cure and just kept upping my dose until i had anxiety problems and constantly felt like i was ready to snap. Experiences like that can prevent adults from getting medicated, because it was so horrible as a child. But we really just need a more flexibe school system. I usually got the highest grades on tests but was perpetually failing because of not turning in homework. There is something wrong when someone can demonstrate they understand the material, but that isn't enough to pass them
User avatar #75 - phudgepacker
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Add and adhd are not real conditions. They have been made up to subscribe to the notion that society requires us to be more civilized and learn at a young age that something is wrong with you if you cant like pay attention to a stupid ******* math lesson that probably wont even benefit you in your career.
User avatar #76 to #75 - robdabob
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Or maybe that's just what the system wants you to believe. Think about it.
#79 to #75 - heartlessrobot
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Except there's a very obvious chemical difference in the brain of people with ADD and ADHD when compared to others.
User avatar #105 to #79 - xtoxicmuffinx
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maybe its because of those drugs they are getting
User avatar #17 - douthit
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Kids are mandated that they go, and we think it strange when they act like they don't like being there?
User avatar #18 to #17 - theanchoviebus
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See this is it, we don't value free education, severeal people ******* hate it. In other countries you get straight A's or you work in a sweatshop, ya America is known for Freedom (Or atleast what we think is Freedom) but kids should be wanting to learn, it's sad that a lot don't because they don't understand the value their.
User avatar #20 to #18 - douthit
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I think we really could have the best education system, but the problem is the "system" part. If it was so great, it wouldn't need to be forced. And as long as it's forced, it can't be great. How great can anything be if it's forced?
User avatar #52 to #20 - akkere
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It's important for it to be forced because educational concepts will be cemented better if the person is in the developmental stage of their life - i.e. Their childhood. That's why some parents (though I don't exactly approve of this) push for their kids to do everything from athletics like soccer and karate, to learning as many as six goddamn languages at a time.
Maybe over time we can make education more appealing with developments in interactive media to enhance educational experience and perspective, but there's no real way we can turn around and make education a non-institution without great risk, unfortunately. It might be an imperfection, but it's a necessary imperfection unless we find a way to somehow instill drives of ambition into every child flawlessly.
User avatar #90 to #52 - douthit
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I would call it immorality, rather than imperfection. It's immoral to initiate force (aggression) against others, even if they're kids. And in the case of public education, through force we force kids to go to school, force their parents to send them, and force their parents to pay for it--even if they don't have kids. It's all screwed up.
User avatar #4 - chadisyounggg
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No it's called ADD not Adhd If this kid was ADHD then we would not just be sitting there he would be hyper as **** trust me I have been on the meds since I was 4.. There is a difference.
#5 to #4 - thefearen
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Seems like a big thing to over look.
User avatar #6 to #5 - chadisyounggg
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It's just annoying to me when people see a hyper active kid they call him ADD, ADD is just not being able to focus it has nothing to do with being hyper but on the other hand ADHD is not being able to focus while being a hyper little ****. But yea it is and I do wish people would learn the difference.