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kulamia (01/09/2016) [-]
See this s why Americans fought a guerilla war.
Know why Britain lost? because the French helped us out by fighting the British until they kind of gave up on their hold on the colonies and French aid allowed us to force enough units to surrender that further British intervention would cost too much
Know why Britain lost? because the French helped us out by fighting the British until they kind of gave up on their hold on the colonies and French aid allowed us to force enough units to surrender that further British intervention would cost too much
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limberlarry (01/09/2016) [-]
Also lack of political will at home to continue the war. It was actually a lot like vietnam, except on somewhat more even terms
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pirateseatcarrots ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-] Funny enough Thomas Paines common sense was what some argue encouraged the French revolution. Also encouraged the American revolution. Funny how history is.
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dyelfagget (01/09/2016) [-]
>implign
The French didn't enter the war until after Saratoga. By which point the Americans were making ground and gaining power. The French actually refused to send military aid until after the revolutionaries had won a major battle.
The real killer for the Brits was public hatred of the war turns out most British didn't like the war against those that they considered their countrymen and the logistics involved in fighting a war 8000 miles away in 1780.
The French didn't enter the war until after Saratoga. By which point the Americans were making ground and gaining power. The French actually refused to send military aid until after the revolutionaries had won a major battle.
The real killer for the Brits was public hatred of the war turns out most British didn't like the war against those that they considered their countrymen and the logistics involved in fighting a war 8000 miles away in 1780.
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cptsweatpants (01/09/2016) [-] To be honest america owes it's freedom more to india than france. Dem brownies had far too many easy to exploit exotic resources for britain to see much merit in fighting to keep hold on america. With the wars in europe and colonization of india britain just didn't have much resources left for america and Washington realized that. Knowing he can't face the british in the field he just fought a guerilla war making it far too damn annoying and expensive to keep dealing with him. Eventually it was just more profitable to give him his freedoms in exchange for renewed trade.
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datmine (01/08/2016) [-] Whats going on in the video?
Something about america's revolution or something that i didnt bother learning?
Something about america's revolution or something that i didnt bother learning?
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ashesllashes (01/09/2016) [-] in the 1700's, England had the largest and most powerful military in the world by far, especially in naval power. this was romanticized in their history. if you want to learn more, go play empire: total war
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theshadowed ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-] Anon isn't actually incorrect. You could be pretty certain that France, Spain, the Ottoman Empire, definitely Russia, and possibly the Ottoman Empire had larger militaries, some by far.
However, Great Britain did have one of the most powerful, because of training. The average British infantry could fire 3 shots a minute, as opposed to two; combined with strategies such as platoon firing, and the 2 man thin regimental firing lines (known as the 'thin Red line') gave Britain a large advantage over other armed forces.
Of course, their Navy was much better. But again, it is possible Spain had more ships. They certainly had bigger; see the Santisima Trinidad, the first four decked Western European ship
However, Great Britain did have one of the most powerful, because of training. The average British infantry could fire 3 shots a minute, as opposed to two; combined with strategies such as platoon firing, and the 2 man thin regimental firing lines (known as the 'thin Red line') gave Britain a large advantage over other armed forces.
Of course, their Navy was much better. But again, it is possible Spain had more ships. They certainly had bigger; see the Santisima Trinidad, the first four decked Western European ship
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cptsweatpants (01/09/2016) [-] The biritish actually had some of the smaller ships, seeing as their navy's primary role was to keep trade flowing and patrol their colonies. They needed frigates to do work, not 3 deckers to show off muscle. What gave them the advantage on the sea was however an overwhelming technical and drill superiority. Their officers were much better schooled and their men had much better training, They were for example the only nation that ever thought it might be a good idea to fire their cannon via flintlock rather than a match, thanks to this and regular practice, a british gun crew could fire their gun almost 2 times a minute. A french gun crew fired on average once in a minute and a half.
The british army on the other hand was nothing special, mostly a bunch of backwards snobs purchasing officer commissions. Ruthless and stupid decisions were more than commonplace. They were generally slow to adopt new technology and tactics. Being one of the last military forces in the world to adopt rifles on a larger scale and later on admit the advantages of breech loaded weaponry sticking blindly to muzzle loaded muskets. Most of their famous victories and feats of honour came down to the men mantaining an incredible level of discipline despite being sent to do something utterly retarded, such as the Battle of Minden or the legendary Charge of the Light Brigade. Prussian army would have kicked their arse any day.
The british army on the other hand was nothing special, mostly a bunch of backwards snobs purchasing officer commissions. Ruthless and stupid decisions were more than commonplace. They were generally slow to adopt new technology and tactics. Being one of the last military forces in the world to adopt rifles on a larger scale and later on admit the advantages of breech loaded weaponry sticking blindly to muzzle loaded muskets. Most of their famous victories and feats of honour came down to the men mantaining an incredible level of discipline despite being sent to do something utterly retarded, such as the Battle of Minden or the legendary Charge of the Light Brigade. Prussian army would have kicked their arse any day.
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theshadowed ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-] I wouldn't say that's entirely true for the British army
For example, they were advanced in some aspects. The British developed the shrapnel bomb (Thanks to Colonel Shrapnel), and their rifle brigades were some of the first. Certainly the first regiments to promote independent thought in the ranks, and use uniforms that could count as camouflage.
While many men did purchase commissions, this was also true for every European army, apart from Napolenic France. The same thing could be said for every European country; and in fact, officer training seemed to be superior than countries like Austria, Russia, and Spain.
Keep in mind we're concentrating on the 18th century here, too. You say Prussia would kicked their arse; but who beat the French. Prussian Military doctrine became outdated in the latter half of the 18th century, because they refused to change, they refused to adapt. While Britain did in fact show tactical flair with its men, Prussia just... didn't. They couldn't. Blucher was exiled for trying too. THeir dispiline was terrifying (the Prussian regiments stood there at Jena, and because they weren't ordered to engage, just took the French storm. Napoleon was shocked at their officer's stupidity, and the courage of the men)
For example, they were advanced in some aspects. The British developed the shrapnel bomb (Thanks to Colonel Shrapnel), and their rifle brigades were some of the first. Certainly the first regiments to promote independent thought in the ranks, and use uniforms that could count as camouflage.
While many men did purchase commissions, this was also true for every European army, apart from Napolenic France. The same thing could be said for every European country; and in fact, officer training seemed to be superior than countries like Austria, Russia, and Spain.
Keep in mind we're concentrating on the 18th century here, too. You say Prussia would kicked their arse; but who beat the French. Prussian Military doctrine became outdated in the latter half of the 18th century, because they refused to change, they refused to adapt. While Britain did in fact show tactical flair with its men, Prussia just... didn't. They couldn't. Blucher was exiled for trying too. THeir dispiline was terrifying (the Prussian regiments stood there at Jena, and because they weren't ordered to engage, just took the French storm. Napoleon was shocked at their officer's stupidity, and the courage of the men)
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cptsweatpants (01/09/2016) [-] Well you could say that could have been achieved by any officer of the time, and the biritsh were merely lucky it was one of theirs. As for the skirmishers, that's a bit of a yes and no. In the british army system many of the light cavalry and foot regiments were a sort of auxiliary, entirely run by the officer in command of it. And it was these officers, some of which were not in fact entirely brain dead, who have been among the first to adopt rifles and pioneer light infantry tactics. The central command however highly despised this. Similar cases could be seen during the american civil war, where there were regiments of light cav and skirmirshers using breech loaded repeating rifles fighting alongside foot troops still relying on breech loaded muskets.
While that is true, it was still significantly behind what the navy had. Both in regards of preference to social rank rather than skill and the actual level of education.
Well the French were beaten by a large coalition of european powers so it's rather unfair to say the biritsh did it, although they did play the biggest part.
While that is true, it was still significantly behind what the navy had. Both in regards of preference to social rank rather than skill and the actual level of education.
Well the French were beaten by a large coalition of european powers so it's rather unfair to say the biritsh did it, although they did play the biggest part.
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ramramram (01/09/2016) [-] No doubt this will be on "god save our gracious memes" by the end of the week.
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anon (01/09/2016) [-] was half expecting to see some nazi stuff, would have been awesome though
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tenaciouslee (01/09/2016) [-] It's hard to see this Inside Out clip and not expect it.
It's hard to forget going from innocent Pixar animation to buff dudes wrestling nude.
It's hard to forget going from innocent Pixar animation to buff dudes wrestling nude.
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foodyquest (01/09/2016) [-] Well I'm glad the Inside Out video I edited is the one that comes to mind. Makes the work I put in worth while.
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tenaciouslee (01/09/2016) [-] If it makes you feel any better, your clip is what got me into Rammstein.
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foodyquest (01/09/2016) [-] Oh yeah I remember. You were the one I was telling about the song being a tribute to a fan right?
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foodyquest (01/09/2016) [-] Oh nope I see it. Yep that was a conversation we had on the original video. So whats your favorite song so far? Also I'm really glad I introduced you to music that you enjoy.
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foodyquest (01/09/2016) [-] That's a good one. I can't really choose my favorite song really depends on my mood. But their music videos are great too I'd say Links 234 is my favorite music video after Pussy of course
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tenaciouslee (01/09/2016) [-] Their music videos are super weird, but the music is fantastic.
I only partly understand German, so I might be missing stuff, but there seems to be no relation of their videos to their songs, like Haifisch for example.
I only partly understand German, so I might be missing stuff, but there seems to be no relation of their videos to their songs, like Haifisch for example.
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foodyquest (01/09/2016) [-] A correlation between video and music is kinda rare and when it's there you kinda have dig a little before you see it. Kien Lust is about become too rich and famous to peruse the art that got you there. Amerika is about the hypocrisy of other nations overly criticizing the US while still being reliant on it and it's commercial products. Mien Hertz Brent is about recurring nightmares. Ich Will (the music video) is actually about the rich and famous getting away with criminal offenses. But others are kinda random (Mien Land, Du Ritch So Gud etc.)
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foodyquest (01/09/2016) [-] Well I could always be wrong I guess.
Here's a fun fact the other band mate's had to beg Till to be their lead singer he's nervous in front of crowds and was perfectly happy with his job of being a basket weaver. He didn't want to be rock star he wanted to weave baskets lol. In fact that's where their heavy usage of fireworks on stage comes from. He figured if they are watching the fireworks they are no watching me.
Here's a fun fact the other band mate's had to beg Till to be their lead singer he's nervous in front of crowds and was perfectly happy with his job of being a basket weaver. He didn't want to be rock star he wanted to weave baskets lol. In fact that's where their heavy usage of fireworks on stage comes from. He figured if they are watching the fireworks they are no watching me.
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tenaciouslee (01/09/2016) [-] I read about that, and that explains the insane onstage work.
Such as the Mein Teil tour.
Such as the Mein Teil tour.
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foodyquest (01/09/2016) [-] I guess if I had to choose a favorite song I would say it's Senschuct when I saw them live that song sounded the best.
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tenaciouslee (01/09/2016) [-] I've yet to see any band I like live.
And that even goes for my favorite band, Dream Theater. I want to see them live really bad, I heard their shows are great.
And that even goes for my favorite band, Dream Theater. I want to see them live really bad, I heard their shows are great.
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foodyquest (01/09/2016) [-] I got lucky Rammstein stopped coming into the state back in 98 they decide to do 1 more tour here so they did one in 2012 the first one in 14 years! I caught the show in my hometown on my birthday! Now that they are semi-retired I doubt that was their last tour of the US. Like I said I got extremely lucky
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tenaciouslee (01/09/2016) [-] That's good luck.
Unfortunately, the band I most wanted to see live I'll never be able to see live.
And that's Dio.
Dream Theater's my favorite, but there's something special about Dio, and when I first heard about them, I was like, "Dude, I want to see them live!"
But, then, well.
Life.
I hope to see Dream Theater live, though. And a few others.
Unfortunately, the band I most wanted to see live I'll never be able to see live.
And that's Dio.
Dream Theater's my favorite, but there's something special about Dio, and when I first heard about them, I was like, "Dude, I want to see them live!"
But, then, well.
Life.
I hope to see Dream Theater live, though. And a few others.
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foodyquest (01/09/2016) [-] Yeah that's too bad man. To be honest with you I don't think I'll ever go out of my way to go to a concert ever again. I never actually like a band the way I like Rammstien. So they were the only ones I had any desire to see live now that I have I really don see a reason to go to a concert anymore.
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anon (01/09/2016) [-]
for those interested, the fragment is from the movie 'the gathering storm'
