Nah, people generally don't change even from that age. Remembering a certain person is an asshole is just sensible, it reminds you to not trust them and give them the opportunity to screw you over again.
>people don't change after they're in first grade
you're wrong in so many ways, but the easiest one to prove is puberty. hormones change how people think in more ways than just sexuality.
I'm still holding a grudge against some assholes from middle school. Mostly cause we're all in college now and they're still huge cunts. **** forgiveness.
If they're still assholes, and that's the reason that you still hate them, then it doesn't fit the definition of a grudge. That's like calling Batman's disdain for the Joker a grudge.
They almost jumped and robbed me cause they felt I disrespected one of them. It was almost graduation and there was still some heat from a previous brawl so I couldn't really throw the first blow. I was joking but the assholes in question didn't get the memo. One of them (the one I despise the most) even threatened me with weapons. I would have just gotten the police but everyone knows where I live so it wouldn't have been good idea in the long run.
I live in Ontario and I got my restricted license in a 2 day weekend course that was about 6 hours each day... It's easier to get a firearms license than it is to get a driver's license. Assuming you have no criminal record of course.
Oh well if that changes anything then that would make a difference. I just always find it odd when people complain about how hard it is to get firearms in Canada when it's literally a 1 day course for long guns and another 1 day for restricted stuff like handguns.
He's probably >tfw no gf and mostly hates himself because the last person he hated has gained more happiness because if it than he thinks he ever will.
The way I see it, it went something like this: The popular boys made fun of you in front of the popular girls for a good laugh because you're autistic as **** , draw dicks on your notebooks, and smell like cat food. 1 boy in particular deals a harsher burn than the others and 1 girl in particular joins in on the boys' fun and hits you with some mean burns about your ****** up face. These are the 2 people you hate and you think that just because they're mean to you, that they're just mean people in general but they're not, they treat everyone else just fine. The only person they're mean to is you because you look like you behave like a little wimp.
After you spend a lot of time on the internet, you get confused about what "winning" means. For every person that's mean to you on the internet there are 10 others ready to pity you and offer support. You believe that because these 10 people are consoling you and saying what an asshole that 1 mean guy was, that you've won. This is just an illusion, you have won jack **** . Sharing your story about a bully online for pity will get you just that, a bunch of ******* pity and that's not a win.
You want to know what a real win is? Making fun of some loser during lunch in front of the popular girls. They laugh at it. Then randomly one valentines day, one of the girls randomly says that she likes you and she's cute so you go along with it. You two get along well enough, become best friends from that moment, and you stay together for the rest of your life until eventually you marry your best friend and have 3 kids. That's a ******* win right there, not an ounce of pity.
Completely irrelevant. Making fun of someone for being dorky is different from telling them to kill themselves. But for the argument's sake, lets say that convincing someone to kill themselves will benefit you greatly. It comes down to your own morals. Personally, I care too much about human life to do something like that (although I can't lie, if the reward was like 1 million dollars to tell a stranger exactly how much his life sucks and how much he should end it then I'd do it). Everyone has their price and while everyone will look down on you for getting away with murder and getting paid a million dollars for it, those bad looks are just that. Those people would be tempted just the same.
Well this situation was a lot different from my original point starting the thread and this was just my opinion on it. Narcissistic? Really? You can call anything that benefits a person as narcissistic, it means nothing. I bet you complain about people doing charity work because they get paid for it. You think that people actually do good things without a single benefit to themselves? That's just naive. No matter how small it is, (small sum of money, being owed a favor, being put in a good light in front of others, etc.) every good deed has a benefit that people get from it and is motivation to actually do it. That doesn't make it wrong. If someone is helping people with cancer cope better, who cares if he pockets some of the money since it's a small percentage and if he didn't do the work no one else would do it. Grow up.
I don't know what the **** charities have to do with you considering school bullies to be "winning" at life when more often they're actually getting molested by their uncle.
But I'll indulge you.
There's a pretty stark difference between turning philanthropy into a career so you can focus on it full-time, and abusing the goodwill (pun intended) of others for personal gain until it should no longer classify as philanthropy.
The former is altruism and benefiting humanity as a species, the latter is narcissistim because of their beliefs that they're inherently better than people for no reason, and possibly sociopathic with how callous they are to human suffering.
Is it "Winning" to own a Rolls-Royce off of the starvation of disenfranchised human beings you promised concerned people (you know, ones with empathy) you would feed?
At that point you're nothing but a leech on the human race with delusions of granduer because you surround youself with a yearly seven ******* figures of shiny rocks. By no means are you proving your own biological "fittness" but rather willfully reducing an entire species.
This is short-sighted, bestial at best. A regression in the traits of human evolution in lieu for base traits of predatory territorial baboons, and far from "winning" the cosmic rat race.
Those kids start from 0, they are not a ''stranger whose life is **** so he would be better dead, and i get 1 million dolars plus, so its a win win situations''
they are little kids, equal on all traits. And one decides to make ******** the life of the other, so his could be better. That's pure cruelty at the age of 6-7, when at those ages they could be living in perfect harmony and not ******** each other's lifes.
Simply put; you are an asshole without any kind of sympathy. Can't you see how horrible is to take something which could grow into a beautiful thing, and twist it little by little, so it grows into a potential suicide or a serial killer? how dumb can you be?
I'm suprised you didn't end that with, "If you had been more of a big-dick alpha like me, then maybe you would get tons of pussy like I do all the time. I swear bro, I get all the pussy."
I like how you generalise people being bullied are "autistic" or "little Wimps".
Let's start with the "autistic" bit. Some of the people who are bullied don't start what you call "autistic". They start as a normal kid, just like any other until someone doesn't like them. Which most of the time are popular or just physically strong but not always.
The others never actually do become "autistic"... They just start "self preserving" in the one way they know how. Which is usually just disappearing, not hard.
Which brings me onto the "little wimp" thing. Have you ever tried not being a "Little wimp" around those ready to hurt you for no reason other than they don't like you or you did something they didn't like? Sure, once isn't much, but when you have nobody you can rely on and it happens multiple times a week. You learn to disappear.
I agree with you on the second and third paragraph. I mean, the whole thing even feels like a prank you'd pull on two friends rather than two people you hate.
Situations are different for different people I understand but your first paragraph reeks of lack of empathy, ignorance and even victim blaming.
I'm not saying they can't and I'm not saying the bullied person should seek pity on the internet either.
Getting bullied makes it difficult for some people though. I was bullied from the age of 4 to nearly the age of 15 and I can tell it has changed me (even as I'm 22 years old now) .
The way I think has changed, confidence problems, I developed a stutter, sometimes have social conversation problems (I forget the word you'd put in there) and I also have problems bonding which shoots me in the foot for potential relationships (I've had some but I always mess it up) and also trust issues.
Despite knowing how I've changed and what needs to be fixed, it's been hard.
However, that's just me and how I've dealt with it. Some people don't deal with it, some people don't realise how they've changed and know they need to now work on themselves, some people kill themselves.
So yes, "the bullied kid could have had an as good life, if not better, than the bully". However, the bullied child is now often left at a disadvantage compared to others and have to put in effort just to reach what should be an effortless average life.
And to reply to your other comment, commenting "Would you be comfortable with your great life, knowing that because of that somebody else is depressed and contemplating suicide right now?". Most of the time this is moot point because the bully never feels bad for it or even realises they have anything to feel bad for Or that bullying people causes them problems. .
Going back to the "Dealing with it" part... If I didn't cope by changing the way I thought, despite causing problems in the future (now), it's have probably also killed myself.
I wasn't generalizing everyone that was ever bullied, I made an assumption based on what very little information OP gave us about his situation. You can call it a "bold call" but not a generalization.
So you're saying kids are made autistic not born it? Can't argue with you if that's true or not but disappearing isn't the only thing people do, they find friends. The bullied kid makes friends with a random kid or a couple of random kids in his art class or whatever. The kids bullying him see that he's now having a conversation during lunch with other kids instead of sitting alone drawing dicks on his notebooks while staring at the cute girls across the room. So they either ignore him now or they try to poke fun of him and his friends tell him to **** off or they all get bullied together and bond over the shame.
Yeah, I've tried not being a "little wimp." When I was in the 5th grade, my cousin (4th grade) and I decided to go to the school playground since it was a 4 minute walk from my house. After 30 minutes 2 kids showed up out of nowhere and wanted to fight us (5th and 6th graders). My cousin was fast so he ran behind the fence and I fought them in the sand pit. I was really fat at the time so they couldn't wrestle me down and after I had one of them on the ground I punched his back and he was too tired to go on after that. They tried to mess with us 2 more times in the future, 1 more time we fought and 1 we ran. That was summer and when the school year started (6th grade) the older kid was on the bus and tried to start a conversation to be friends with me and I ignored him and he knew to **** off. In the 9th grade, the younger kid was on my bus and we became good friends walking home together and talking although he didn't remember our fight probably because he picked a lot of fights.
Victim blaming? You're the one generalizing here. You really believe that the "victim" is just that? No that's complete ******* . The weak, frail victim can easily start some **** just because they know they can get away with it. Each situation is different. You can argue that this scenario specifically the victim was a normal person and had unjust hate brought on him but you can't say that every victim is blameless.
I quoted autistic because people use "Autism" nowadays to call anyone doing anything out of the ordinary, or beta or anything like that and very rarely for actual autism.
Also, the fact you started typing this whole comment despite not knowing anything about this actual case means that you assumed a lot. Probably a generalization.
Following that, Have you ever heard "People aren't born monsters. They're made monsters"? I may be wrong on then actual quote here but you understand what I mean Traits come about due to bullying and not wanting to be social is one of them. You also haven't had even medium level bullying happen to you if you think it's as easy as "just make some friends" As I've heard ever so much so many times before. Not from you (almost though) but from those who haven't been bullied. then you're wrong. People see you're being bullied and then do not want to be friends with you in case they get bullied. A lot of people don't bully, but also don't want to be bullied so they stay out of it.
So you've NOT been a "little wimp" to two people? It was a lucky day if there was ONLY two people for me. Two wasn't the problem. It's when they surround you is where it starts getting interesting, but I'll leave it at that for now.
Every victim IS blameless. If they however provoked it onto themselves then they aren't exactly a victim are they? If they provoked a dog and the dog then bit them, most people I know would not blame the dog.
I managed to deal with my bullies before leaving school Mostly through manipulation and physical fights though. and managed to get a friend or two and since leaving school. Bullying hasn't even been a speck of any problem I've had since then. The only reason I made the comment about your first paragraph is because I know that bullying had changed me and not just me, I've seen others change due to bullying, and it's that change which is what people have to deal with later on in their lives.
Also, I have no idea what point your #72 comment is trying to make. Most bullying isn't someone telling someone to kill themselves. That's actual true Malice.
ffirst, your username is proof of how retarded narcissist you are.
second, you can't even rebute a strong, firm argument from another anon, so you just say ''that's irrelevant'' when he has clearly explain to you how horrible bullying is.
you know why are you getting so ******* on? because you classified bullying as ''winning''
People have really blown the "black hermione" thing out of proportion. I don't give a **** about the actor's race, I just care if they're a good fit for the character or not.
Sorry, what? Blade was black in the comics that the Westly Snipes movies were based on, and the Rock is half black (albeit it he does look more Samoan than black)
If they were making a sequel to the movie series, and they suddenly switched out Emma Watson for a black actor, that would be ****** up. But since this is based on the books, where her race is never specified, I don't mind it.
I mean.... i guess you could say they probably deserve eachother? On the other hand we rarly get what we deserve, most likely we're going to be lonly and alone and isolated for the rest of our lives because we're such a ******* broken individual that we can't even begin to have a meaningful relationship with another human being without being such a worthless piece of **** that it poisons everything and eventually pushes everyone away. I wake up in the morning and wish i could just evaporate, i don't even want to go to the trouble of leaving a body behind and i don't have the strength to kill myself i just want to cease to exist, erased from time and space as though i'd never been borne. Let the world exist without me in it i'm sure it'll be better for it.