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User avatar #20 - removekimchi (04/07/2014) [-]
I am actually a level 5 vegan

I don't eat things that have a shadow.
User avatar #41 to #20 - drtrousersnake (04/07/2014) [-]
I am only 2 steps from being a grandmaster vegan. I am currently photosynthetic.
#28 to #20 - anon (04/07/2014) [-]
User avatar #5 - bloodynose (04/06/2014) [-]
Tell everyone about vegan club.
list the benefits of vegan club
tell everybody when and why you joined vegan club
passive-aggressively use vegan club to make yourself feel superior
look down on people who won't try vegan club
join and advertise everything containing the word vegan.
User avatar #10 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/06/2014) [-]
This is a lie. Vegans couldn't maintain that kind of muscle mass.
User avatar #25 to #10 - brotify (04/07/2014) [-]
Frank Medrano - Superhuman Bodyweight Workout Domination this guy is actually a vegan
User avatar #29 to #25 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/07/2014) [-]
Steroids don't count. You could get ripped from eating pork rinds and drinking beer with roids.
User avatar #26 to #25 - tffan (04/07/2014) [-]
******* steroids.
User avatar #36 to #10 - redstonealchemist (04/07/2014) [-]
actually there are a lot of vegan body builders and musclemen. soy food for example contains a crazy amount of protein
#42 to #36 - swagbot (04/07/2014) [-]

The proper array of Grains and Beans (non-soy) will do that for you - just need to make sure you ingest the 9 Essential Amino Acids, and the other 7 if you need them;


This is why seed-staple-based cultures often have two seed-based 'grains' a/o beans that they eat together with every meal (rice and beans - rice and lentils, etc.) - because together they have a complete amino-acid profile.

Too bad Quinoa prices have spiked - that shiz is Taaas-ty, and has a complete Amino Acid profile!
User avatar #47 to #42 - redstonealchemist (04/08/2014) [-]
did you know you can get a lot of essentials from hemp-based foods? hemp milk if i remember correctly has a particularly high amount of omega 3 and 6 AND has at least 4 of the vital nutrients needed in the adult human body, excluding two that aren't in the human body naturally
#54 to #47 - swagbot (04/09/2014) [-]
**** YES!

Bought some hemp milk as a joke a few months ago... ended up really liking it.
Most brands of milk (Pacific Foods, Tempt, and others) have other additives that i prefer to avoid, so every once in i while when my craving spikes (usually when my body feels achy and inflamed), i grab a bag of hemp seeds and eat them over the course of a week.

Surprisingly, though i react badly to most seed foods, hemp seeds don't seem to give me any trouble

Good on ya!!
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#21 - anon (04/07/2014) [-]
did someone say vegans!?
did someone say vegans!?
#24 to #21 - zackenia (04/07/2014) [-]
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#23 - popnotes (04/07/2014) [-]
I was thinking of taking a vegan diet for just a week.   
I hear it makes your jizz taste amazing.   
Don't know why I'm sharing this.
I was thinking of taking a vegan diet for just a week.
I hear it makes your jizz taste amazing.

Don't know why I'm sharing this.
User avatar #35 to #23 - redstonealchemist (04/07/2014) [-]
if like 50% of what you eat is pineapple and you stay the **** away from things like asparagus, then yeah. a raw vegan diet (which only needs to be 70% raw) mainly populated by fruit would in all likelihood make your manjuice taste better
#38 to #35 - popnotes (04/07/2014) [-]
Science. Semen science.
#30 to #23 - anon (04/07/2014) [-]
so you eat your own jizz?
#31 to #30 - popnotes (04/07/2014) [-]
No, because it tastes terrible. Haven't we learned anything?
No, because it tastes terrible. Haven't we learned anything?
#3 - squiblles (04/06/2014) [-]
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#32 - mayedh (04/07/2014) [-]
First rule of Club Nintendo, Tell everyone about Club Nintendo
User avatar #22 - mymommasallama (04/07/2014) [-]
i dated a vegan right after high school.....she wouldnt let me eat her out..... whats sad is thats not a joke, she really wouldnt.
#8 - dizzyhills (04/06/2014) [-]
is it just me or do vegans seem really unhealthy?
#9 to #8 - angelusprimus (04/06/2014) [-]
you CAN be healthy being a vegan.
But that means making a really complex diet plan, and then STICK to it.
Plus you need to take supplements and eat more often.
Most vegans do not actually do that. They think that being vegan is like being vegeterian where you just have to eat enough. Unfortunately human body is not meant to live on vegetable matter alone, and not all kinds of protein are equal.
TL;DR yes, a lot vegans seem really unhealthy because they don't understand how to eat properly.
User avatar #37 to #9 - redstonealchemist (04/07/2014) [-]
i've been vegan for 5 weeks. the first two were hell because we didn't have any vegan food outside veg and for two weeks most of my food intake was potato, baked beans and (vegan-friendly) noodles. for the first year it's okay if you accidentally eat something that's vegetarian rather than vegan. there's even a whole list of e-numbers we can't have
#43 to #37 - angelusprimus (04/07/2014) [-]
Yeah, thank you for proving my point about vegans who eat unhealthy.
The diet you are living on is lacking in... everything pretty much.
User avatar #48 to #43 - redstonealchemist (04/08/2014) [-]
i said the first two weeks. for the last couple of weeks i've been eating healthily on a vegan diet and have taken up baking and cooking far more often
i hope to soon get the recipe for vegan mozzarella right
User avatar #11 to #9 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/06/2014) [-]
I never understood wanting to be vegan since you need supplements to be healthy. Isn't vegetarian enough?
User avatar #40 to #11 - redstonealchemist (04/07/2014) [-]
vegetarian still says milk is okay. milk is less morally justifiable than meat (except veal).
how would you like it if when your mother was raped and then she's forced to have the baby and then the baby is pulled away from her minutes later, never for her to see her new baby ever again?
and that baby is either murdered as a baby/child or grows up to endure the same thing her mother would.
how would you like it if your little sister or DAUGHTER was raped every single year and forced to have babies from the very start of puberty?
User avatar #45 to #40 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/07/2014) [-]
Wow, you might actually have a point if they were sentient!
User avatar #49 to #45 - redstonealchemist (04/08/2014) [-]
can the dream? can they discern one face from another? can they have friends or enemies? if they can' they're sentient. how about you drink a nice glass of shut the **** up and talk about things you actually know **** about
User avatar #53 to #49 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/08/2014) [-]
You don't know the definition of sentient.

Lel, at least I can ******* write correctly. You're in no position to criticize me.
User avatar #56 to #53 - redstonealchemist (04/11/2014) [-]
The Oxford English Dictionary (online) defines sentience as the ability to perceive or feel things. I believe my view is justified. Furthermore the spelling, grammatical or punctuation mistakes I made exist within the boundaries of human error. Go **** yourself.
User avatar #57 to #56 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/11/2014) [-]
k, have fun being unhealthy, hippy. I'm gonna go cook some ground beef and eat it while thinking of you.
User avatar #58 to #57 - redstonealchemist (04/11/2014) [-]
Firstly, I am not a hippy. I find their taste in music, scents, fashion and their overall behaviour to be ridiculous. Furthermore I don't smoke cannabis. Excluding all of the obvious side-effects it has on the human mind alone, I find smoking anything at all to be difficult and not enjoyable at all.
Secondly, it has been proven that everything you need from meat can be found in plants and fruit in higher and healthier quantities.
And thirdly; I hope your leg is chopped off and eaten by a cannibal right in front of you.
#59 to #58 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/11/2014) [-]
You need B12 supplementation or you will develop a deficiency since you can't get enough from unwashed vegetables or mushrooms in B12 rich soil, and it's recommended to take long chain Omega-3 pills as well. You may also need iodine supplementation unless you eat sea vegetables frequently or you'll develop thyroid issues, and it's difficult to get enough calcium and iron (especially for women) from your diet since most of these come from meat or dairy for omnivores.

Lel, "he disagrees with me so I hope he gets injured!" Seems like you oppose pain unless its on people.

This beef smells awesome by the way. Maybe I'll have some chicken later too.
User avatar #61 to #59 - redstonealchemist (04/11/2014) [-]
The comment concerning a cannibal wasn't meant with ill intent, rather it was to get you thinking about how you would feel if someone was consuming your flesh.
B vitamins, omega 3, calcium and iron can be found in plants in sufficient quantities to stay healthy.
omega 3 and 6 can be foudn in hemp milk in far larger quantities than in fish, for example.
User avatar #62 to #61 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/11/2014) [-]
It'd bother me, but I have little worry about it since I am part of the apex species on the planet. Top dog eats bottom dog.

B12 can't be found in high enough quantities in food to stay healthy. B12 deficiencies aren't usually severe, but you can't get it from plants. As for the others, I didn't say they couldn't, I said that many people can't get enough of them so supplementation is often the only way to stay healthy.

Hemp milk has short chain Omega-3's, not long chain. It's true that short chains can be converted to long chains by the body, but many people can't manufacture enough long chains to stay healthy, regardless of the amount of short chains you consume, so supplementation becomes necessary.
User avatar #64 to #62 - redstonealchemist (04/11/2014) [-]
it seems this argument has developed into a well-intended discussion.
i've just done a quick search and eggs (free-range! i know, weird for a vegan contains B12, but there was also this:
"In modern society, fruit and vegetable production is far more sanitised in that fruit and vegetables for sale in supermarkets are washed in chlorine. This removes the B12-producing bacteria and so vegetarians and vegans must obtain vitamin B12 from other sources, this means fortified foods. The industrial production of vitamin B12 for the fortification of foods involves fermentation with bacteria. Large-scale production is carried out using a number of bacterial species, including for example Pseudomonas denitrificans, Propionibacterium freudenreichii and Propionibacterium shermanii. Bacterial cultures are grown in huge vats for the extraction of B12.

B12 can be obtained from many everyday food items that are fortified such as veggie burger and sausage mixes, yeast extracts, vegetables stocks, margarines, breakfast cereals and soya milks"
User avatar #65 to #64 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/11/2014) [-]
Wait, but you aren't a vegan if you eat eggs. That's just vegetarianism sans dairy (I forgot the term for it). If you eat eggs then most of what I said doesn't apply since the eggs, including the shells, have a lot of excellent nutrition.

Hmm, I guess they can be fortified with manufactured B12, I was only considering "whole foods" type diets.
User avatar #66 to #65 - redstonealchemist (04/11/2014) [-]
a group of vegans consider free-range eggs to be vegan because of the culmination of factors:
free-range chickens aren't 'cooped' up.
hens lay eggs regardless of roosters.
treating chickens as well as you would a dog or cat makes them happy (i assume you're nice to pets if you have any)
and finally: if they aren't used, they get wasted
User avatar #67 to #66 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/11/2014) [-]
I guess that makes sense. I don't understand how pastured dairy cows would be different though; dairy cows have to be milked or their udders will tear and cause them injury. Not only would the milk go to waste, but the cow would be hurt as a result of inaction.
User avatar #68 to #67 - redstonealchemist (04/11/2014) [-]
well the information i have concerning dairy cows is flawed and may even be misinformation, however in understand that they don't exist naturally and the land they need is very large, so though a combination of various reasons i would suppose dairy cows appear to have a less tan preferable state of living.
User avatar #69 to #68 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/11/2014) [-]
One cow really doesn't require that many resources when you consider how much milk it produces over its lifetime, and cow feed is just what is grown for human consumption, but fed to cows. The only thing that we cant really use is the alfalfa that is occasionally fed to a cow, but alfalfa is a very productive plant and can usually provide two or three good harvests per season, making its impact on land small.
#14 to #11 - angelusprimus (04/07/2014) [-]
because all animal based food is product of animal suffering.
******** , but they believe it.
Vegeterian diet is healthy and good for a human. And I think it should be enough for people concerned about morality of eating animals.
Personally I believe that pescetarianism is the healthiest diet. Which is vegetarian diet plus fish and seafood.
I'm not one, I try to adhere to minimum impact ethical omnivore diet.
User avatar #16 to #14 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/07/2014) [-]
Lel, honey and milk are products of animal suffering?

Vegetarianism is good, and so is pescetarianism, but to be honest I just love red meat way too much to give it up (and I only really like fish if it's raw). Call me selfish or what have you, but I love it and I won't stop. I do try to by the fancy, low impact **** though even though it costs twice as much since I do love my planet to some extenct.
User avatar #39 to #16 - redstonealchemist (04/07/2014) [-]
how would you like your delicate, sore nipples cut on a daily basis and wait for milk to painfully be extracted? not to mention dairy cows CANNOT produce milk unless impregnated which means a cold metal rod inserted into ones' reproductive organs or worse: it's often done by hand.
and that's not even the worst part. the worst of it is that any calf produced this way has one of two ways to live: they will either become a dairy cow and suffer this torture until they can't bare children any more and go to the slaughter house OR they will go to the slaughter house as calves and end up as veal.
"meat is murder" yes, but milk is monstrous.
User avatar #46 to #39 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/07/2014) [-]
Holy **** , you have zero idea what you're talking about. I've found that's the norm with sanctimonious vegans.
#44 to #39 - angelusprimus (04/07/2014) [-]
Actually, dairy cows because they have been crossbread for milk production HAVE to have their udders (at least learn how its called if you will preach) squeezed to release milk, because if they do not the udders swell in incredibly painful way.
Milk is extracted through simple machines that DO NOT CUT THE ******* UDDER, pain in udder reduces the milk production and it would taint the milk with blood and make it unsellable. The machines that cut the udder existed for a short period in the ******* early eighties and have not been in use for over 30 years.
and if we all stopped to use dairy products then we would have to either let dairy cows live in absolutely horrible pain or kill them all.
Meat may be murder but veganism is genocide.
User avatar #50 to #44 - redstonealchemist (04/08/2014) [-]
it wouldn't be genocide if people had woken up to veganism sooner.
#52 to #50 - angelusprimus (04/08/2014) [-]
For every person to take veganism we would need every bit of useful surface for farming.
Since we could not afford to feed anything but a few domestic animals in zoos.
Chickens, cows, sheep and pigs, which every single one exists in billions today, would become near extinct animals seen only in zoos.
Since we had hundreds of millions of cattle and poultry for hundreds of years, and we only have had intensive enough farming methods to produce enough plant food if we had to for less then a hundred, however you look at it, if people switched to veganism collectively there would be a worst genocide of animal species in history.
User avatar #55 to #52 - redstonealchemist (04/11/2014) [-]
firstly roughly 70% of all farmland is dedicated to farm animals, we currently have enough food to feed 11 billion people, even if farm animals were half as efficient as a food source as plants, we would be able to feed over 20 BILLION people, starvation crises' in under-developed nations would be less common and food would be significantly cheaper, which also helps the people financially.

secondly these species weren't supposed to exist in the first place and think about it really: chickens came from the red jungle fowl, which is restricted to (i think) south america. cows came from bull-based species, i believe the term is oxen and pigs obviously came from boars. i have no problem with breeding the species together with their ancestral species if possible so that their respective ancestral species is less aggressive and the progeny would lead to a balance between calm and wild.

thirdly if humans are capable of living healthily solely on plant-based diets, why not if it's easier, cheaper and more effective?
#60 to #55 - angelusprimus (04/11/2014) [-]
Yeah, that is a really popular number being thrown out by the vegan groups, its utter ******** but its really popular.
Most farm animals are being raised today in either cubicles or savannah ranches.
Why ranches in savannah? Because savannah is too DRY to raise crops. 70% of american beef is grown in areas that would be utterly impractical to raising crops. Actually to convert such areas to farm land you would have to spend so much energy in getting water and fertilization that price of food would be astronomical.

You have just betrayed tremendous amount of ignorance. First, chickens were raised as far back as ancient egypt, they appear in hyeroglyphs 7000 years old. So no, they do not come from south america. Oxen is simply a castrated bull. And ancestor species for cows and chickens is extinct. And here is the thing if we stopped eating meat and dairy we would HAVE to kill off all the farm animals because we would have to drastically increase plant production and stop feeding animals. Which means genocide of entire species. Who are you to determine what species should be destroyed?
You might not have known that but we use every part of the cow, sheep etc. If we killed off all the cows and sheep, we would have to make textiles, adhesives, medicines, fertilizer and thousands of other products from artificial means which would be a disaster for our ecology since petroleum would become far more prevailant.
Oh also, if we got rid of animals, means no more natural fertilizer, which would mean no more organic vegetables. So quality of our plant based food would go down seriously.
And this is just a tiny part of the problem.
And no, eating just plant based food is not easier, not cheaper and it is in no way more effective. But please keep reading just the materials you want to see and don't ever let any actual facts change your beliefs.
User avatar #63 to #60 - redstonealchemist (04/11/2014) [-]
this isn't religion we're talking about, i have facts that support my opinion and a simple google search can take you to the very same things.
i'm not implying that the entire world turns vegan overnight, i think it would be best to make gradual change.
fertilizer can use detritus (dead plants) instead of faeces. i admit that i was misinformed concerning the cows and chickens, but my idea is still valid: what harm is there in breeding a domesticated animal with a wild animal and letting them roam free?
furthermore isntead of simply murdering the livestock, just let them die of old age, there's nothing wrong with that.
and finally all of the things you've noted down that supposedly require the death or pain of animals to make can be made without animals, again a google search will prove this
User avatar #12 to #11 - killerjhtwo ONLINE (04/07/2014) [-]
They also don't realise that most of the food they eat and the supplements they get have something to do with animals in some way.
Unless they source their **** from an anally attentive and strict vegan farm, which I doubt there is handily available, so they might as well just eat normally.
User avatar #15 to #12 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/07/2014) [-]
That's another thing: animal products are in so many things that, short of growing and making everything yourself, you can't be a true vegan.
#17 to #15 - dizzyhills (04/07/2014) [-]
so im gonna go with a final answer as being a true vegan is unhealthy since one most take a number of supplements to actually pull it off.
User avatar #51 to #17 - redstonealchemist (04/08/2014) [-]
actually you CAN have a balanced and healthy diet even being vegan. it just takes a little bit more effort and wouldn't even take that much more if things actually were labelled if they're suitable for vegans, which only a rare few products actually display
User avatar #18 to #17 - nigeltheoutlaw (04/07/2014) [-]
User avatar #33 - mrgoodlove (04/07/2014) [-]
Vegans are the Christians of the food world
User avatar #6 - geffunplz (04/06/2014) [-]
How do you know if someone is vegan?

they'll ******* tell you.

what a terrible joke.
User avatar #2 - deescalation ONLINE (04/06/2014) [-]
This joke was way overdue, thank you
User avatar #34 - redstonealchemist (04/07/2014) [-]
i'm vegan and i confirm this
#19 - kuff (04/07/2014) [-]
Tyler's method from Fight Club was to tell people to not talk about fight club. So of course, everybody talked about it. Reverse psychology.
Tyler's method from Fight Club was to tell people to not talk about fight club. So of course, everybody talked about it. Reverse psychology.

User avatar #4 - frky (04/06/2014) [-]
More like
First rule of diet club
- Tell everyone about diet club
User avatar #13 to #4 - xoyv ONLINE (04/07/2014) [-]
second rule of diet club
-forget about the fact that you joined diet club
#1 - dandaniels (04/06/2014) [-]
Again leave or tacos alone.
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